Hi,

V is 40/21 @ 36 hands




I guess it's a trivial spot, however it always puzzles me when I have an overpair below let's say QQ on a low board. Some time before this one happend another guy cold called with QQ and took the pot (different table). Mindset is alos something I am tryng to work on. Anyway....


Except of 3x there's only 99 and TT that have me beaten since I assume he will 3bet pre with JJ+ AQs+ AKo, so I decide to call. He looks fishy but his bet of 50% pot OTT doesn't look to me as a bluff, however if we assume he will defend BB with 36% he has only K7s, A7s, A3s, 77, 33 and some connectors with 7x that made actually a strong hand. However he still has no made hand about 60% of the time, and A high 23% of the time.


Do you call here till the end and just make a note if he calls on BB with his usual 3betting range as well?

after his turn bet i doubt he has no made hand 60% of the time. whether you want to call turn is heavily dependant on his turn aggro freq. Sometimes i call, most of the time i would let this one go.

Are you not considering raising that donk on the flop? I don't think there's going to be a ton of good turns for you here and they'll probably stack off with 7x (or worse). Not even sure if they'll be donking out their 3x here?

im shoving flop for value vs unk/fish on this flop. he will have 7x most of a time and some overcards/random **** hands that sometimes call. i saw wierd stuff on those stakes.

forget what i said and listen to these guys. thought we were 75bb deep. this shallow id also raise flop get it in.

Nobody else likes open jamming this pre-flop?

Not really, with 18bb eff. Maybe some of the smaller pairs, but nothing this strong IP.

Yeah, you're right guys, jamming flop might be best option. I guess I was on a slight tilt expecting him to hold nothing but 99+. Thanks!

I start to like it more those days, however on 18bb I'd rather raise / shove to 3bet sth like TT+. I gues if 3bet came I would muck those 88. :O

Shouldn't we then balance and shove also stronger hands? Or I am misunderstanding this balancing thing?

We are 18 BB deep against the BB, but it also makes a difference that SB has 7.6 BB.

In answer to your question, we don't need to balance the smaller pairs even if we are face-up as having them. Let's imagine if our open-jam range was only one hand, 66, what would their strategy be against it? Wait for 77+? That's fine by us, we're happy to take the blinds the other times - i.e. almost all the time. If ICM isn't a factor then he can call with things like suited overs that we are flipping against but that doesn't change our equity that much.

^ That's a good point.

thats only partly true lektor. Of course is 66s a profitable shove for 18bb no matter what call ranges villain take. But if they knew our 18bb shove range is only low pairs they can contruct the best possible call range against it. Even though the 66s shove is still +ev for us. It can be more +ev by contructing a different 18bb shove range. In such a way that is is more difficult for vilain to create the best possible calling range.

Yes that's right. I meant the "only jam 66" thing more as a thought experiment.

After we have put the low pairs in we find villains calling ranges are such that we can add a load of other stuff we don't necessarily feel great about playing postflop with low SPRs like suited connectors and we do end up a bit more balanced, and villains end up having to call various other hands like Ax that our low pairs do well against and that's more profit.

Point is, just because villains know we don't have QQ+ and we are capped, it doesn't mean there's a whole lot they can do about it when our stack is already in the middle.