Is this river a fold?

PokerStars - $0.45+$0.05|75/150 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 19.45 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 20)
BTN: 9.43 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 3.03, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 33)
Hero (SB): 17.47 BB
BB: 37.48 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: 5.25 BB (VPIP: 24.24, PFR: 22.03, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 67)
UTG+1: 17.13 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP: 16.23 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP+1: 15.23 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 7

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (3 BB, 3 players) J 5 A
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks

Turn: (3 BB, 3 players) 3
Hero bets 1.5 BB, fold, UTG+1 raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB

River: (9 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 13.13 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 13.13 BB

strange line you take on the turn IMO

Think I am just checking again.

Would be curious to know what you put him on when he raises the turn as I think that maybe answers your question.

I personally would find it hard to give it up as played

Without reads (i.e. what happened last time he overbet?) I'm calling here, particularly if he is an ok player (in the absence of other info, players from Russia, Ukraine etc. are usually better at this buy-in level). You will be right often enough.

You are repping a weaker hand than you have. Your call of the raise on the turn just looks sceptical of his BS and he may know that you are less likely to have an ace when another comes on the river. If this is for value what does he expect you will call with? If you are folding an ace here he could do this with ATC so you are super unbalanced which is not ok without strong player reads. You will get shown 42o or a full house or trips with a stronger kicker sometimes but probably not as often as 13 times out of 35.

Even if we assume villain is betting for value, considering limp pf UTG. The only hand he may have that beat you are ATo,A9o,33,55.
That's 18 combos if I can add up fast.
Considering, all the Jx, 66-99, and bluffs, this is a profitable call.

yeah we need to call here. like lector said you slow played your hand so villain has no reason to believe you have an A here. and like mir said lots of different hand combos you do beat, can't see a fold ever.

preflop: ok

flop: mandatory lead to 2.5bb, we have to protect out equity vs draws, also losing value if checked through, and its multi-way, and we're OOP

turn: as played, lead bigger to 2.5bb, as played b/c vs MR, if UTG had raised bigger its b/f

river: as played, c/c

unlikely he has better Ax, we lose to 33/55, we beat Jx/bluffs

For the reasons mktpppr gives, AT and A9 are also 'mandatory' raises on the flop for the other player so they should be discounted quite a bit in vilains range even if they can't be discounted entirely in a 50 cent game - once in a while we will even see him show down AJ that slow played pre and on the flop but I am happy calling with these pot odds.

as played, river is actually a bet/call to 4.5bb, we cant check because opponent might check behind

Thx for the replies guys! I'm not sure why, but I was sure he had me beaten OTR, but like you all also said, I had to call.

mktpppr: I don't like donking TPWK OTF with awkward stack sizes, and if ppl at these stakes have a flush draw they call pot size bets all the way. I think my line is ok here. His 3bet OTT though is really weird, maybe I should've suspected something there because at the end of the day players at these stakes are hard to read due to their horrendous play.

^ What did Villain show down?

The end of your name, sigh

Lol. Like I said earlier, they do that once in a while. Now he has confirmation that limping AJ utg+1 and checking with 2 pair is the way to stack people with it and he will try it plenty more times. I still think your call was fine though.

Yep I'll get him next time!

we're not donking, donking is leading into the PFA, ie in a raised pot, this is a limped pot

stack sizes aren't awkard, its a limped pot, ie small vs eff stacks

we want our opponents to call pot size bets with draws, we're printing $ in the long run due to our opponents making mathematical mistakes

by checking the flop we give our opponents cards to catchup

in general, a limped pot is dead money waiting to be picked up by the first player to show aggression

we cant slowplay TPNK, too weak to stack off with in a limped pot, esp not on a drawy flop

Yeah I mixed up hands, sorry. Agree with you on most points but I'm sitting on 17BB in a multiway pot OOP with TPWK OTF which isn't where I necessarily would like to invest the rest/a large quantity of my chips. Secondly, I don't like the lead OTF in this situation, if I get 3bet on then what? Easily someone has me dominated with a better ace or something else.

majority of the time we have the best hand with TP in a limped pot

if we get raised on the flop its an easy b/f because TPNK is too weak to continue with

if you don't want to invest chips with TPNK in a limped pot post then why complete pre?

what were you hoping to flop? quads?

Yes, so you fold. Most of the time that doesn't happen though and you get value from weaker hands or folds from various hands that could overtake you by the river.

In general, it's fine to have a bet-fold or raise-fold range. If the only hands you bet are raise are ones you are willing to call a raise with then you should just raise to the larger amount straight away and not give Villain the tactical choice of what size pot to play.