I think you misunderstood me. I want Lock to confirm whether their regulator audits their client accounts or not. i.e. do they regularly check that seggregated client accouts exist and contain funds at least equal to player balances?

afaik Lock haven't even confirmed that much!

Another one started since my post, so there are actually 2 right now, seville (9-max) 14034 & 14377

Okay, so you don't believe them when they say player funds are segregated but you will believe them if they say their regulator audits their client accounts & states they exist and contain the proper amounts? I feel ya and kinda feel what you're trying to get at here, but that really doesn't make a lot of sense.

lol, had only "low" stakes highlighte...I see them now, but was kinda kidding in support of ya anyways. Noticed they got a six max limit 1/2 going also.

Theres 8 2/4 NL tables running right now, 6 at 1/2 probably 20 at 5c/1

those are 6 max...he was referring to full ring

And now the site goes down again.

So, whenever they actually get a tournament to have over 300 runners the site can't handle it.

The numbers are more than likely correct just because there aren't 50 tables of quadruple draw triple flop Omaha doesn't mean they are wrong.

I wasn't disputing the numbers.

My point was that if you can't get much action at your level of play, then the numbers really don't mean much.

Rizen and Co have put a lot of effort in regards to marketing tournies, yet most get less that 200 runners, usually closer to 100.

Their servers can't even handle a 2738 runner freeroll, which also affected the other tables I was on.

I posted numbers about NLHE and LHE, middle stakes, not some obscure triple draw bs you are trying to attach my post to. They only spread omaha and holdem, not a single other game anyway.

I'm just saying, yeah over 7k online now looks really great, but what I'm playing is a ghost town.

Yea... my **** is crashing too. This has happened before, and they do refund and pay out, but I'm sick of this ****.
I'm being treated like a prison bitch because I live in America and I have no choice but to play on Lock.

When this happened on 1/13, 2 weeks ago, I was kicked out of 5 tournies and was only able to get back to one of them. The other 4 I was blinded out and the tournies continued to run.

I emailed them 3 times since and have yet to receive a response, let alone any kind of compensation for those 4 tournies.

You said most of the thousands were playing penny games. That's simply not true.

They are the largest facing US site. It sucks they can't pull in full ring or mtt players but that has little to do with Lock and more to do with people migrating more towards short handed cash play.

I guess we just disagree and just doing a quick look at the tables shows I'm correct.

There was over 7k players online when the 100k freeroll began today. They cancelled the freeroll, which had 2300+ entrants and immediately the total players online dropped to 4004, oh wait, just dropped to 3867. Half the players went offline when the freeroll was cancelled.

If you look at the cash tables, the majority of them are low limit.

There are currently 9 tables of 6 max, no full ring atm, LHE games running right now and not all of them are full.

1 table 1/2 - 5 players
2 tables of 4/8
The rest are .05/.10

So I'd say there is virtually no LHE traffic.

PLHE - zero games running

NLHE - The majority of tables are .25/.50 and lower

I haven't looked at omaha and haven't played that in a while, but I remember having a hard time getting a game of midstakes there as well.

So, I still stand by my assertion that the traffic numbers are highly misleading and unless you play really low stakes, it's hard to get action and multi table.

There numbers are no more misleading then every single room on the Internet.

I'm not so sure about that.

I don't see 4000 individual players on the site right now. More like less than 2000.

Is it possible that the 4000 number is the number of seats full rather than 4000 individual players? If I'm playing at 6 tables, am I being counted as 1 or 6 in that 4000?

http://www.pokerscout.com/

Pokerscout gives accurate numbers on cash players.

Every room's lobby has a different method of counting their players, some count anyone who is logged in to the client, some count the total number of seats taken, play money, etc.

Wrong. I play solely LHE on Lock, the traffic is very doable, will only be a few tables at a time running ever though. I'd guess the LHE traffic is about 1 4th of Merge's.

The cake software is horrible. That's why I have yet to play there.

That just means they're bumping up their online total by counting all players that are registered for tournaments twice. Once for being online and once for being in the tournament. Tourney gets cancelled and the total drops by the number that were registered.

It's shady, but there's no rules that say they have to show an accurate number of online players. Bigger numbers look more attractive.

When the server crashed at the start of the freeroll, there were also other tournaments cancelled. And many SNG's were barely playable. When that happens, a lot of players, myself included, are just going to be done for the day. The rapid drop-off during/after something like that doesn't really indicate what stakes people are playing.

My post was definitely not wrong.

The numbers I posted were correct and 90% of the time I am lucky to see 1 table running at any limits above 10c/20c

50c/1, 1/2, 2/4 at most get 1 table going. It's so rare to see more than 1 table going at those levels, so you must be talking about the 2c/4c and 10c/20c tables that have a few running at any given time.

I have no idea what "doable" means to you, but to me, 1 table is not enough online.

You're talking to someone who plays solely Limit Hold'em. Your post was definately wrong. That being said, i'll play any limit from 1/2 to 30/60

I don't think either one of ya'alls posts are "wrong" just that you're banging heads here...one is only looking at full ring (9 players) and the other, I believe, is including the 6 max tables as well is all.

Pogue, knock it off. You are being ridiculous.

Every site in existence has a majority of the players at low stakes or microstakes.

Some players are willing to play games other than fullring. You aren't apparently. That's your problem.

Your points you are trying to make are not really worth bringing into this discussion.