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02-18-2013 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mccormick
Yeah, agreed.. writing 1 single post doesn't exactly mean she has to spend "all her time" on customer support.
Jen Larson absolutely needs to post here. She needs to explain herself and her company.

She doesn't need to make a thread, just write something and have it be a sticky at the top of the page.

"Re: Why we suck and what im doing about it"
02-18-2013 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
We have fallen behind Bovada this is true, but this happened when we were at our weakest. With slow cashouts, multiple weekends of tournament failures and our ring fencing move which we knew would slightly weaken our numbers in the short term. We got back to a problem free weekend with the tournaments, we have plans that will see cashouts improve over the coming months and with the new signups continuing at the same rate pre-ring fencing we have no doubt those numbers will bounce back as well.

So we know exactly what we need to do to get to the next level and are working towards that. Id much rather be in this situation that have Bovada overtake us when everything was running smoothly, at least we know what needs to be dont to regain that position and its within our grasp.


The short term losses of liquidity are being offset by the strengthening of our base, our KPI's are showing this has worked exactly how we hoped and we can now start to build and move forward again.


The last paragraph was full of presumptions, that were all very wrong. Just because the tournament problem wasn't fixed after the first week doesn't mean nothing was being done to fix it. From the second the first tournament was paused till this morning when we got through a the first incident free weekend for a few weeks there has been work going on behind the scenes to identify the problem, to find solutions for the problem and to get the solutions implemented. The notion that Jen has no work ethic is ridiculous and cant come from anyone who has ever met her or spoken to her.
Fair enough and thx for answering. I honestly hope it does work out like that and ya'all retake them. Lol, you're getting a tad thin skinned though I never said she didn't have a work ethic. I was more lol at the comparison of the two positions in general...as I'm pretty sure you also had already pointed out that it wasn't a real "apples to apples" kinda match up. But then again, I guess it would be actually possible to have every tractor worldwide go down at the same time from an emp and remotely feasible to fix them all by the next week ...of course, the damage from nuclear blasts that probably caused such havoc in the farming world would have to be temporarily overlooked while accomplishing such

Lighten up and thx for answering my question, it was a good answer and, btw, I'd be more than happy to meet her if it allowed me a visit to the castle.
02-18-2013 , 06:05 PM
Her posting here does nothing. It's really simple, fix the non USA cashouts and the sky is falling stuff will go away. Anything over a week is completely unacceptable. You guys are at 50+ days for ROW.
02-18-2013 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ditch Digger
Her posting here does nothing. It's really simple, fix the non USA cashouts and the sky is falling stuff will go away. Anything over a week is completely unacceptable. You guys are at 50+ days for ROW.
Agree.
02-19-2013 , 05:08 AM
imjustshane February 2013:
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
we have plans that will see cashouts improve over the coming months
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
and in the coming months you will eventually start to see those improvements delivered.

.... we continue to work to get things back where they should be.

Cashouts you will start to see improvements in much sooner as we have more tangible control over this.
imjustshane April 2012:
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
There will always be the problems that crop up along the way but that cashout thread provides clear evidence that overall our cashout situation has improved tenfold since we made the move to our own cashier and we are working hard to make sure it gets better and better.
I can find lots of similar quotes between those two dates. The cashout times get worse and worse while the message stays consistent: "we're working hard to improve things and you will see improvements over the coming months."

Last edited by raidalot; 02-19-2013 at 05:18 AM.
02-19-2013 , 06:23 AM
hahaha thanks for putting in the work to find that. solid stuff
02-19-2013 , 07:07 AM
Why does everyone act surprised and lash out at Shane? Lock is obviously a shady-ass site that is trying to get away with serving americans by funneling/laundering cashouts through intermediaries, such as the random people in the Phillipines we receive our Western Unions from. It takes time to launder money to the point where the government can't easily trace it and shut down Lock.

The CEO won't show her face because she will just receive a (justified) torrent of criticism and hate. Shane is the dummy they stick out there for us all to vent at and demand answers from. Meanwhile, business goes on as usual and we all continue to play there since we have no choice.

As for ROW cashouts, why the hell would any non-american play on Lock??
02-19-2013 , 07:14 AM
This probably means nothing, but when I was getting Everleaf Western Unions, they were coming from Socrates Fudillo of Manila, Philippines.

PLEASE someone tell me they have had money from Socrates. LOL

Spoiler:
Everleaf went busto
Spoiler:
IDK if that is even a real person of or what the ****
02-19-2013 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tiledonk
Not to derail and get into a huge discussion about bitcoin, but how would the use of it be any more rogue than using shady processors to backdoor payments to US players?

Offer it as an option and let players decide if they want to assume that risk.
Bitcoin is "the" way to go.
02-19-2013 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by _Goldseraph_
Why does everyone act surprised and lash out at Shane? Lock is obviously a shady-ass site that is trying to get away with serving americans by funneling/laundering cashouts through intermediaries, such as the random people in the Phillipines we receive our Western Unions from. It takes time to launder money to the point where the government can't easily trace it and shut down Lock.

The CEO won't show her face because she will just receive a (justified) torrent of criticism and hate. Shane is the dummy they stick out there for us all to vent at and demand answers from. Meanwhile, business goes on as usual and we all continue to play there since we have no choice.

As for ROW cashouts, why the hell would any non-american play on Lock??
I think Shane knows more than he let's on. His job is to calm down the players, do damage control and do his best to keep the money coming. Look through his old messages, they say the same story, cashouts will imporove, i will chase that down etc. His loyalty is with Lock, not with the players. The day before Lock closes its doors Shane will be in here telling everyone everything is fine.


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02-19-2013 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by VicVegas007
I think Shane knows more than he let's on. His job is to calm down the players, do damage control and do his best to keep the money coming. Look through his old messages, they say the same story, cashouts will imporove, i will chase that down etc. His loyalty is with Lock, not with the players. The day before Lock closes its doors Shane will be in here telling everyone everything is fine.


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02-19-2013 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by raidalot
imjustshane February 2013:



imjustshane April 2012:


I can find lots of similar quotes between those two dates. The cashout times get worse and worse while the message stays consistent: "we're working hard to improve things and you will see improvements over the coming months."
Actually no, after April 2012 when we moved to our own cashier things got much better and we were cashing out faster than main cashier of the network we were on.

So using this example when I tell you thinks will get better they will. Thanks for digging this out.
02-19-2013 , 05:15 PM
Is the UIGEA to blame for it taking this long for you guys to program a way for the client to allow casino exclusions without shutting down the whole cashier?
02-19-2013 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
Actually no, after April 2012 when we moved to our own cashier things got much better and we were cashing out faster than main cashier of the network we were on.

So using this example when I tell you thinks will get better they will. Thanks for digging this out.
02-19-2013 , 06:44 PM
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Actually no, after April 2012 when we moved to our own cashier things got much better and we were cashing out faster than main cashier of the network we were on.
how long did that last?

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So using this example when I tell you thinks will get better they will. Thanks for digging this out.
ok so should i dig up the example of you posting essentially the same thing couple months ago followed by cashout times increasing from 30-ish days to 50-ish days?
02-19-2013 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jah Onion
how long did that last?


ok so should i dig up the example of you posting essentially the same thing couple months ago followed by cashout times increasing from 30-ish days to 50-ish days?
touché, there's no getting around this one i think. You indeed said they were going to become better back then aswell (people were complaining massively about 30 days aswell), instead they got worse.
02-19-2013 , 07:04 PM
It's post like these
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So using this example when I tell you thinks will get better they will. Thanks for digging this out.
that show just how big of a tool Shane actually is.

How the **** do you make this post knowing full well that for months now you keep telling people things are gonna get better then they either don't or get worse, all the while this subforum is FILLED TO THE BRIM with people complaining about a ton of ****, be it the horrible cashout times, the constantly buggy software or the fact that you people refuse to make any sort of upgrades to your client
02-19-2013 , 07:06 PM
get bitcoins plz
02-19-2013 , 07:14 PM
Here's some posts, first few are from July 2012, then starting with Jade Lane's post the remaining ones are from September 2012. These are from the NON-US cashout thread in your own subforum, Shane.

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Originally Posted by Voll
wow im jealous of all you im going on a month waiting for my skrill
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Originally Posted by IamHere
I STILL WAITING AFTER 2 WEEKS FOR MB ( SKRILL ) CASH OUT )
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Originally Posted by mjm25
For those that have been waiting a long time, are your withdrawals listed as "authorized" in the system?

My 4 figure Skills have been authorized for almost a week. Will update when they are received.
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Originally Posted by Voll
i keep gettin same response support always says i will contact cashier team sorry for your wait? like is there anyways i can contact cashier team a month for skrill is ridiculous
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Originally Posted by Sharkament
3 weeks ago i requested a 50$ cashout as a test. it was authorised 6 days ago, still havernt receieved it.. 8 days ago requested a new payout of 230$.. hasnt even been authorised yet.

Whats going on?

Why would it be in your interest to not process these things quickly? I feel like i cant trust the site anymore I might need to get all my money off because I need steady cashouts.

I was really patient and supportive with lock but im losing it all slowly..
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Originally Posted by bigdog422
cashed out of lock on the 12th to moneybookers and still yet to get it, been "authorized" for over a week
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Originally Posted by JadeLane
Players: Lock Rep, can you please tell us what is going on?

Lock Rep: Ewallet cashouts are taking approximately 7-14 days.

Players: But we have been waiting over 14 days already.

Lock Rep: "crickets"
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Originally Posted by Pro Playa
Requested: 9/7 (9k skrill)

21 days have passed, or 15 business days, still nothing.

* To the people posting successful cashouts, can you please include the Amount/Method of payout.
This would help the rest of us get a clue on what's working/what's not.
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Originally Posted by cpar1
requested 10k via Skrill sept 10 and nothing
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Originally Posted by umakenocentsbro
really its taking a month to withdraw for ROW players now??? this is bs, cake itself does it in 5 days nowadays


How you have the audacity to post some **** like this is beyond me considering how lock has been treating its players so far
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So using this example when I tell you thinks will get better they will. Thanks for digging this out.


I hope people stop "feeling sorry" for Shane and the job he has to do, and I hope people stop being naive enough to think everything he says is stuff passed down the ladder and he's just this innocent 3 y/o boy who believes everything he's told and just relates it here. It's pretty ****ing clear he's taking some enjoyment from trolling us in these threads
02-19-2013 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jah Onion
how long did that last?


ok so should i dig up the example of you posting essentially the same thing couple months ago followed by cashout times increasing from 30-ish days to 50-ish days?
That lasted till just after the move to Revolution, that changed things dramatically for us and we have had to work very hard to get things turned around again.

There was a time a couple of months back when I wrote something about hoping things were about to get better. But the information at the time wasn't as strong and my posts reflected that. It was more a case of hoping things were going to improve.

To be very specific I didnt have the details of the amounts of payouts going out then like I do now.
02-19-2013 , 07:30 PM
So can you give us a firm date of when cashouts will return to the CS quoted timeframe?
02-19-2013 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Schwatt
So can you give us a firm date of when cashouts will return to the CS quoted timeframe?
I have been given the timeframe the cashier team hopes to achieve this in, but after the situation Jah Onion has highlighted where the cashier team hoped to have things sorted and instead they got worse I havent wanted to post it too much until we start seeing the real results of the change.

Its one thing to make a plan and its another thing for that plan to come off as you hoped. Working in the forever changing environment we are working in makes this situation slightly more problematic so I generally take the information Im passed down from the various teams and wait to see its effects paying off with real world results before Im too convinced.
02-19-2013 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
I have been given the timeframe the cashier team hopes to achieve this in, but after the situation Jah Onion has highlighted where the cashier team hoped to have things sorted and instead they got worse I havent wanted to post it too much until we start seeing the real results of the change.

Its one thing to make a plan and its another thing for that plan to come off as you hoped. Working in the forever changing environment we are working in makes this situation slightly more problematic so I generally take the information Im passed down from the various teams and wait to see its effects paying off with real world results before Im too convinced.
Can you give a date on when CS will start giving out the correct timeframes on cashouts?
02-19-2013 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnFR
Can you give a date on when CS will stop lying about the correct timeframes on cashouts?
FYP

Considering just my last three cashouts (25, 30 and 50 days), it's been at least 3+1/2 months since cashouts have not occurred within 7-14 business days (which, btw, is still more than most poker sites out there). Surely these timeframes aren't taking support by surprise considering the plethora of emails they get from ppl complaining their cashout is xx days late and the amount of replies they send falsely ensuring said ppl that they're going to receive their money soon, in the next batch which will be sent out shortly.

Last edited by Jah Onion; 02-19-2013 at 10:41 PM.
02-19-2013 , 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jah Onion
FYP

Considering just my last three cashouts (25, 30 and 50 days), it's been at least 3+1/2 months since cashouts have not occurred within 7-14 business days (which, btw, is still more than most poker sites out there)
most poker sites? name me one, really -_-

      
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