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08-05-2013 , 07:52 PM
I didn't out the specific city or IP, nor can I rule out (nor would I) a VPN so it's relatively safe, I think.
08-05-2013 , 07:54 PM
great, now they are gonna ****ing throw Shane under the bus....*******s
08-05-2013 , 07:58 PM
How does someone who works at a poker site not know how to spell withdrawal?

I've actually always been curious also, why do so many people on this site use "withdrawal" as a verb? Is it just like non-English speakers who are making a mistake or is it some meme here?
08-05-2013 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by frommagio
Shane, is that you? If so, thank you for coming back and helping our community one last time.
you quote the entire OP...really?
08-06-2013 , 12:06 AM
OP not sticking around or following up not a great look.
08-06-2013 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
OP not sticking around or following up not a great look.
Let's reserve judgement. This could actually be the real Lock Q&A thread that we've always wanted, but never had.
08-06-2013 , 12:36 AM
2p2er FatalError, live MTT regular afaik said he spoke to the Cardplayer owner at the tables and he told him that Lock told CP that they had money lost in Cyprus.

^ That was posted publicly.

As far as money being owed, many months ago multiple skins said it was over a million.

Of course, Shane has denied Cyprus and reconciliation, but Shane has said a number of times he relies on Jennifer for a lot of this type of information and Shane's own words have been proven inaccurate on so many occasions all credibility is lost (that doesn't mean he's always lying or half truthing, just that we don't know if what he says is ever real or not).

The real thing to watch for would be employees being paid or not in the upcoming pay period. If they get paid, we're left to assume that OP doesn't add anything new to the conversation.

If employees are not paid, then OP gains some real credibility.

But there aren't a ton of new details or "omg really?" in there. Most people in the industry without a financial incentive in Lock have pretty much seen this situation as the puzzle being put together enough to make some assumptions. Lock's continued struggles and lies and the bs that people like Shane and Chris give people just keeps reinforcing those assumptions.
08-06-2013 , 12:43 AM
I wonder how many people actually work at Lock?

Shane admitted the other day that his office is the spare bedroom of his apartment. I think it's possible less than 5 people work there total.

Security and support -- Joseph, Quinn, etc. -- could all be one person. Possibly Shane.

Jen? Probably works from home, too. They probably have a guy on call somewhere in case of server issues. Who else would they really need?

This is not a serious company. This is not a company that even vaguely has its **** together. This company literally seems like something that 2-3 people, with zero experience, are trying to hold together over Skype.

They seem like almost the worst business-people ever assembled -- they're almost certainly the worst run poker room ever. Every single aspect of their business is complete fail -- you can't even argue that they're half-decent at any particular service they offer.
08-06-2013 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
I wonder how many people actually work at Lock?

Shane admitted the other day that his office is the spare bedroom of his apartment. I think it's possible less than 5 people work there total.

Security and support -- Joseph, Quinn, etc. -- could all be one person. Possibly Shane.

Jen? Probably works from home, too. They probably have a guy on call somewhere in case of server issues. Who else would they really need?

This is not a serious company. This is not a company that even vaguely has its **** together. This company literally seems like something that 2-3 people, with zero experience, are trying to hold together over Skype.

They seem like almost the worst business-people ever assembled -- they're almost certainly the worst run poker room ever. Every single aspect of their business is complete fail -- you can't even argue that they're half-decent at any particular service they offer.
where did shane post that he worked out of a spare bedroom>
08-06-2013 , 12:54 AM
A while back, Costigan posted something about Lock moving into a new office building or something like that.

Shane then deleted some of my posts about it, and when I asked him about it, we had a brief back-and-forth where he mentioned it.

He has also mentioned before that he's located all alone in some country, and not in a 'Lock HQ' with everybody else -- he works with them over Skype, supposedly.
08-06-2013 , 01:05 AM
None of the info from OP is new. Anyone following the situation could tell what was going on. The only info that we have yet to discover, and that the OP did not include, is who the exact individuals are in Canada that control the cash at the end of the loops and tunnels. OP if you have these names, please post them.
08-06-2013 , 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
I didn't out the specific city or IP, nor can I rule out (nor would I) a VPN so it's relatively safe, I think.
seriously? this is really, really horrible. if this is a remote employee, do you really think they have a bunch in every state? giving their location did absolutely nothing to help this. can i give you a list of screennames and get their locations too? im sure you were trying to help, but there really just isnt excuse for that, even if they are behind a vpn.
08-06-2013 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
They seem like almost the worst business-people ever assembled -- they're almost certainly the worst run poker room ever. Every single aspect of their business is complete fail -- you can't even argue that they're half-decent at any particular service they offer.
The marketing and promotions imagery is kinda cool.
08-06-2013 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Picasso
seriously? this is really, really horrible. if this is a remote employee, do you really think they have a bunch in every state? giving their location did absolutely nothing to help this. can i give you a list of screennames and get their locations too? im sure you were trying to help, but there really just isnt excuse for that, even if they are behind a vpn.

I agree. I think publicly posting the location was a terrible move that could reveal a whistle blower prematurely. I would ask that the information stay among the mods, even though we all know that info leaks out anyway. Maybe keep it to the guys in orange, red and blue


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08-06-2013 , 04:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimAfternoon
I wonder how many people actually work at Lock?

Shane admitted the other day that his office is the spare bedroom of his apartment. I think it's possible less than 5 people work there total.

Security and support -- Joseph, Quinn, etc. -- could all be one person. Possibly Shane.

Jen? Probably works from home, too. They probably have a guy on call somewhere in case of server issues. Who else would they really need?

This is not a serious company. This is not a company that even vaguely has its **** together. This company literally seems like something that 2-3 people, with zero experience, are trying to hold together over Skype.

They seem like almost the worst business-people ever assembled -- they're almost certainly the worst run poker room ever. Every single aspect of their business is complete fail -- you can't even argue that they're half-decent at any particular service they offer.
Sorry but you can't run a company the size of Lock with only 5 employees. They are exponentially larger than that.
08-06-2013 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Chazley
Sorry but you can't run a company the size of Lock with only 5 employees. They are exponentially larger than that.
Actually, they might not be -- or at least as far as the number of employees that matter.

It's possible that they hired some clearinghouse of e-mail/chat customer service rep who operate from a script, but have very limited access to do anything.

It is quite possible that Lock consists of Jennifer, Shane, Eric Lynch, and a few silent partners.
08-06-2013 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by donkiman
None of the info from OP is new. Anyone following the situation could tell what was going on. The only info that we have yet to discover, and that the OP did not include, is who the exact individuals are in Canada that control the cash at the end of the loops and tunnels. OP if you have these names, please post them.
Most likely the owners of cake ( I forget their names) but I believe they are 2 guys from Vancouver. I will try to find their names again if you like. I am curious if anyone knows if Jen Larson was the owner of Lock before they moved over to Merge from Cake.
08-06-2013 , 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
No matches, IP in Massachusetts.
Genuine insiders won't come here if you disclose details like this which could identify them to Lock. Sufficient to say no matches imo.
08-06-2013 , 06:54 AM
Shame OP didn't throw in anything which isn't already known/speculated. A few details like location/size of the offices, names of owners/management, names of shell companies etc would help to verify.

The only vaguely new aspect is this:
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Lock will not be paying employees in an upcoming pay period. Excuses will be used, but the money is running out.
...but saying "an" upcoming pay period just means in the future. So this claim just amounts to the same as saying Lock will go bust in the future.

The wording here is suggestive of an outsider:
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Shane’s performance was so poor and raised more problems that they pulled the plug and decided that a hide and seek approach was better.
Also, the only name provided, "M.J. Hugenholtzweg," was already revealed on a filing linked to JDB Services (and reported on 2+2). The name was stated in that format in the filing: initials with no first name. An insider wouldn't use that format but would naturally use the first name.

atm, unless OP provides more details, it looks most likely a spoof written by someone who has followed the Lock saga fairly closely.
08-06-2013 , 06:57 AM
"M.J. Hugenholtzweg" is an address not a person.
08-06-2013 , 07:12 AM
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That is a small group of insiders in Canada. The idea that JL is sole owner and CEO not entirely accurate. Just as M.J. Hugenholtzweg is not.
Wow, interesting stuff there, OP. Sounds like a legit story.

Too bad M.J. Hugenholtzweg can not be the owner as you say yourself, as ...


Try again, but this time with something that is not public knowledge, if you really work at lock, but I have my doubts that you really are.

Or are you trying to say that some of the companies under Cyberluck are not really located where they are according to the license? Shocker!
I thought they would all share the same office space in Curacao and have a good time.

In any way, post more 'inside' knowledge if you really have some.
08-06-2013 , 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by HammerMan72
"M.J. Hugenholtzweg" is an address not a person.
That makes it even less likely to be a genuine OP!
08-06-2013 , 07:22 AM
Truth about Lock?

* M.J. Hugenholtzweg is an address in Curacao
* Lock owns managed office space at the e-commerce park in Curacao
* Many other offshore companies make use of the same address and managed office space
* Lock's alleged payment processor "JDB Services" owns Lock and it's domains
* Lock's alleged payment processor "JDB Services" owns Cipaco and it's domains
* OP is obviously not a Lock employee
* 1,200 players online at 1:30pm UTC+1
* G911 is a Lock shill
* Lock has proven once again that they don't care the least by pulling off of 2+2.

* It's sickening to see how easy it is to operate a rouge, US facing poker room or even rouge poker network and get away with it. Imho the perfect example why online poker needs to be regulated and rooms monitored. Not only in the US but on a global level.

Last edited by HammerMan72; 08-06-2013 at 07:28 AM.
08-06-2013 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by HammerMan72
* Lock owns managed office space at the e-commerce park in Curacao
* Many other offshore companies make use of the same address and managed office space
I would say that there aren't any online casinos / poker rooms with licenses in Curacao that have ever visited the "country", let alone have a physical presence there. A Curacao license is only a phone call away, and as long as you pay their fees, you're licensed.
08-06-2013 , 07:49 AM
I agree but e-commerce park is still the prime address for offshore companies offering full fledged "office services". No need to be there or having been there but your "company" is represented there.

      
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