I've heard people suggesting 65/35, but 60/40 seems too far, no? I'm def willing to listen but at some point it becomes a triple or nothing.

-Rizen

65/35 would be the industry standard that I assume most people would want. Everyone I have talked to regarding these supers has suggested 65/35.

It's funny that you would suggest meeting at a casino because I don't turn 21 until next June haha. If you would meet up with me, even if it was for a quick cup of coffee somewhere, that would be awesome. I'll PM you around December to see what your schedule is like.

i dont know about the sng's but the mmt's are a joke. you guys deep in the tournament going all with big stacks with 9 6 off and hitting a bout. then im in another tournament at the same time i go all in with QQ and he calls with 9 10 off and hits a set? unreal sht.

Good question.

Also to OP how does the chart support losing 20 to 30 BI without winning. At most it looks like maybe 5 or 6 game losing streak?

What was your bankroll? $1.10? I don't understand how you could lose your "roll" in 300 $0.10 super tubros. Hell if you had -100% ROI that would only be $30. Your roll was less that $30?

i've never hit a bout.

or hit a set with connected cards.

and i shove all the time!

and for the serious aspect of my post, 65/35 and reduced rake would be amazing.

yes , it can get alot worse, dont worry =]

That from 6-max of HU STs? Or something else? I think I would have wanted to quit around 7500 lol

-Rizen

It's like right around 21,500 you get some hope. "**** yeah, I'm above AIEV!!!"...

6000 hands later..."fml"

HU

yea, huge tease ;p

Jesus. How many BI's under EV is that? Poker = nutlow confirmed

Until proven otherwise, Primo = king of runbad ;(

Ebes whenever I read this initially I didn't really think much of it, but I have to revisit this comment. You're saying that 200 BI downswings are to be expected, even for a winning player? I ask because I am on an absolute ball-buster of a downswing. I've lost like $800 in 5 days playing exclusively $5 tables (you can SS me to see the graph if you'd like. Don't pay too much mind to my first 3000 games or so. I was just learning how to play ST's at that time. My focus is one the ^carrot-shaped part of the graph lol)

It's especially painful when you see how much I was crushing it for 1500 games prior to this. Now, I don't consider myself the best player at this level by any means, but I definitely think that I am, at the very worst, a BE player before RB. So is this really natural variance, or do I need to reevaluate my game?

FWIW I know it's hard not to be subjective when evaluating yourself, but I think I have definitely been playing my A game throughout most of this downswing. I just can't believe I can be playing the same way as I was during that upswing, with such polarized results.

I appreciate any input from my fellow ST grinders on this. Obviously, I'm very frustrated and venting a little bit. I'm still gonna profit this month with the LB and everything, but my God!

Yea I think that those downswings are gonna be not "standard" (200ish+ bi's) but definitely can happen in these games.

I talk to Ruse quite a bit and he was telling me the same thing that Jordan said itt earlier.

Btw, will be seeing lots more of you guys in the near future (jd4wg91 on merge)

Keep on grinding Zach, you'll bust out of it

You were something like 14% roi last month, right? And you know you are probably 3% long-term at the very very beat. Variance works both ways. When you had that upswing it should have immediately occurred to you that a downswing equally as bad was possible.

People always underestimate 'variance' or as I call it, luck.

I been on $9k swings at 2/4 (omaha)... I don't play many tourneys as I almost feel like it's more luck but whatever.

Thanks man, and everybody else that posted. I think it's most frustrating because of how quickly I have just 'burned' through this money in the past 5 days. I mean, you can see how crazily steep the downslope is. I think it's been something crazy like -20% ROI. In other words, $1 per game at the $5s....#sickrunbad

Earlier this month it was 11-12% for a good while (close to 2000 games). Now I think it's about 2%...so I guess you're right. I suppose I have to get used to this. It just hasn't 'felt right' these past few days, but then again, when I was getting 12% it didn't feel right either lol

well it's obvious that the 10+ isn't a maintainable return. Or even 5+. So it really doesn't seem too bad in the grand scheme of things even though it probably ****s with your head like no other.

I went ahead and looked thru my HEM after reading a bit here. After ~8k games the biggest downswing I've had in terms of buyins is ~90BI (6m, not HU). However, I play pretty much any buyin from $5-$52 and biggest in terms of $$ is a -2500ish streak I just broke through. The games are pretty filthy when it comes to the variance that HAS to be expected if you plan to play these games, and it makes for some silly looking graphs lol

I completely sympathize with you on how ridiculous it seems when you are on that downswing and your roll just evaporates so much quicker than you ever imagined

Gl in August!

Wug thoughts on volume/profits/all that stuff for the month?

i played a few of these. and realized that is was total luckfest (and yes i was wondering if merge site was rigged etc because all of my aa kk and qq went down to j2 49 29 etc that everyone was calling their stack with) - then i decided to NOT play them anymore. actually didnt to too bad - just have to win 1 and get 2nd in one out of 4 - but its just sick variance. Again - I just don't play them.

I think you should keep playing them man. Things will turn around for you.

I think im gonna take it easy this month and only play 8k games. I just hope I run better. 250k chips under EV the last 5 days of the month.

this

Sick, did you hit your goal tho (in terms of vip level or w/e (esther level?))

lol

You are a sicko for saying that 8K games is taking it easy. Do you mind commenting on what your setup is like? I know you got the xbox controller going, but do you stack or tile? All I have is a laptop, so I'm very limited obv. The highest I've gone was 10 tables at once with these supers. I wasn't comfortable with that at all yet. My comfort zone is unfortunately 6-7, so that's one of my main goals is to add 1-3 tables comfortably in August.

gl on running better. I'm in a very similar boat, as evidenced by my graph