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There's not enough idiots playing the super turbos There's not enough idiots playing the super turbos

07-18-2011 , 01:50 AM
Well, I lost my whole roll. I had been playing on that roll since 2007. 6 handed super turbos has to be the worst idea ever. Even the ******s can figure out the proper strategy on those and it's difficult to get a big stack to push people around with. Not like in FTP where you can get a big stack early and then push people around to get the win. I hope someone does some analysis on Lock Poker's super turbos because I've never seen anything like it in my life. I've been playing super turbos for years and I'm used to the swings but never anything like this. I'm supposed to be 82 % to win with QQ vs 89o but you'd never know it playing on Lock Poker. AA never wins either. I don't know what the hell was going on but I'm saving my hand histories.

People are using poker tracker and game theory even on the 11 cent super turbos. It's ridiculous. People are supposed to fold J3o in the BB to an all-in but not anymore.
07-18-2011 , 02:31 AM
lol
07-18-2011 , 02:54 AM
No money in lock poker 6 max super turbos, everyone but op solid.
07-18-2011 , 02:54 AM
Hope its a level, but if not, Hope you don't do anything really meaningful outside of poker that requires logic.

goodluck in all you do!
07-18-2011 , 03:02 AM
[x] even the ******s can figure out proper strategy on those
07-18-2011 , 08:03 AM
Is this normal? How can my adusted $EV and my real $ results being getting farther and farther apart with the more tourneys that I play.

07-18-2011 , 10:17 AM
because you've played under 300 SUPER TURBOS. with SUPER TURBOS comes SUPER VARIANCE.

not SUPER POWERS
07-18-2011 , 10:52 AM
lololololol
07-18-2011 , 11:33 AM
Should probably keep up the grind OP. Your due for a heater
07-18-2011 , 11:44 AM
you lost your whole roll playing these? dam. btw could you explain who these idiots are you speak of?
07-18-2011 , 11:50 AM
It's quite easy to go 20 to 30 buyins without winning so yeah. I think I found a leak in my game, anyway.

Idiots are the ones who call off their entire stack with 89o when I have QQ and they hit two pair.
07-18-2011 , 12:17 PM
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People are using poker tracker and game theory even on the 11 cent super turbos.

So does this mean you lost your whole roll playing the 11 cent tourneys?
07-18-2011 , 12:48 PM
u were up $200. fyl
07-18-2011 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gss999
Is this normal? How can my adusted $EV and my real $ results being getting farther and farther apart with the more tourneys that I play.

How does breaking even correlate with losing your whole roll
07-18-2011 , 02:05 PM
"How can my adusted $EV and my real $ results being getting farther and farther apart with the more tourneys that I play. "

You don't understand variance, do you? Because that's how it's supposed to be. Your winrate converges to your true winrate but the difference between actual winnings and EV grows.
07-18-2011 , 02:39 PM
Dear OP, the graph u have put up shows nothing. Its pretty standard graph. As u said that u have been playing these super turbos for years, u must be realizing that these kind of swings are normal. I was once running 20BI under EV on Pokerstars in regular sit n go's. Are you going to say pokerstars is rigged too? Man up and stop complaining.Stop complaining, "poker is not rigged".


And btw, you don't seem to complain about the sudden jump in your graph at about 50th game. There your ev was nearly $0 and u had $121. But u complained when your ev was $121 and you had $0.Kind of strange i would say.
07-18-2011 , 03:46 PM
Eh, 50-100 BI swongs aren't that rare in regular turbo SNGs these days, lol.
07-18-2011 , 04:35 PM
If you assume you have a true 1% ROI then you can expect 200 BI downswings to be fairly routine.
07-18-2011 , 06:34 PM
I should have about 4 % ROI. Ok, maybe you are right. I just have seen things that I don't remember seeing before. I just thought the green line and red line were supposed to converge more but I guess I don't have a big enough sample.
07-18-2011 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by stormblower
How does breaking even correlate with losing your whole roll
I spent that trying to move up to a higher stakes. I'm using the lower stakes to fund my move up to a higher one. I'm complaining because I got killed at the higher stakes and then dropped down and got killed again at the lower one. Only the lower stakes data is shown in the graph.
07-18-2011 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gss999
I should have about 4 % ROI. Ok, maybe you are right. I just have seen things that I don't remember seeing before. I just thought the green line and red line were supposed to converge more but I guess I don't have a big enough sample.
In my opinion the best way to explain it is that the more games you play the more likely it is that your red line will converge with your green line. With the small sample you have it is not at all surprising that your green line and red line are completely different.
07-18-2011 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by gss999
I should have about 4 % ROI. Ok, maybe you are right. I just have seen things that I don't remember seeing before. I just thought the green line and red line were supposed to converge more but I guess I don't have a big enough sample.
Also, there is no super turbo 6 max player on Merge that has a consistent 4% ROI over a legitimate sample....at any stake.
07-18-2011 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ebes12
Also, there is no super turbo 6 max player on Merge that has a consistent 4% ROI over a legitimate sample....at any stake.
Yeah you're killing it if you have 2-3%. OP I think you should just deposit keep playing. What's the worst that can happen?
07-18-2011 , 09:15 PM
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People are using poker tracker and game theory even on the 11 cent super turbos. It's ridiculous. People are supposed to fold J3o in the BB to an all-in but not anymore.
Lol you hear a lot of people contradict Themselves on 2+2. Very special that you managed to do it in the very next sentence, congrats.
07-18-2011 , 10:01 PM
LOL. A 4% ROI on the super-turbos would pretty much make you the best super-turbo player in the world.

      
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