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05-08-2013 , 10:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MicroBob
That answer makes absolutely no sense at all.

Shane, Can you or somebody else from Lock please answer my questions in this thread. It would go a long way towards establishing a more positive image.
MicroBob

With all due respect your beating a horse that YOU know to be dead. I understand you got some $$$ left and that would make anyone a little sour, but lock poker is finished. Realistically lock has reached the point where they are sitting behind the curtain going "damn I guess we cant drag these people on any longer, better stay silient to failure now." Its time for you and others to erase of lock and move on to other endeavors. They already have. They are chillin in Portugal dreamin up other ideas
05-08-2013 , 10:33 PM
formula - I understand why you feel that way. But there is nothing wrong with my attempts to work with them on this...just in case you aren't quite as correct as you think you are.

You just came into this forum/thread to say it's time to "erase of lock and move on."

Feel free to move on if you like. Nobody is keeping you here. But basically telling everybody in this forum that they should be moving on is not terribly productive....nor necessary. Again though, I understand where it comes from. Just as I hope you can see where my approach is coming from.
05-08-2013 , 10:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by formula72
MicroBob

With all due respect your beating a horse that YOU know to be dead. I understand you got some $$$ left and that would make anyone a little sour, but lock poker is finished. Realistically lock has reached the point where they are sitting behind the curtain going "damn I guess we cant drag these people on any longer, better stay silient to failure now." Its time for you and others to erase of lock and move on to other endeavors. They already have.
+1

The amount of threads popping up are ******ed and not needed. Lock is done, hence the complete silence on their part. No need to have the charade go on any further, hence the silence. Mason already said in another thread they are aware of the posts in this forum, they are following it and they have done nothing about it in the past several days.

Lock is done, so why create thread after thread about it. Did we really need another thread Bob?
05-08-2013 , 10:55 PM
Shane being silent after being called to comment on transferes speaks volumes.
05-08-2013 , 11:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NL__Fool
+1

The amount of threads popping up are ******ed and not needed. Lock is done, hence the complete silence on their part. No need to have the charade go on any further, hence the silence. Mason already said in another thread they are aware of the posts in this forum, they are following it and they have done nothing about it in the past several days.

Lock is done, so why create thread after thread about it. Did we really need another thread Bob?
There are a lot of silly threads and no real need to keep this stuff going but MicroBob does make a good point that it's not hurting anybody to keep on these guys just incase the stars happen to align and something surprising comes out of it. Atleast...or at most I should say it needles and irritates the owners and sponsers of lock having to see these posts day after day. That's about all we have left to cling to.
05-08-2013 , 11:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NL__Fool

Lock is done, so why create thread after thread about it. Did we really need another thread Bob?

In my opinion, it is beneficial.

Do we really "need" anything at all? No. I don't "need" my money back from Lock technically...if they don't ever pay me it's not like my life is going to end.

But I don't see the harm of this thread and I don't understand why anyone would. Spelling it out in specific thread to push and nag them to communicate right away is not hurting anyone here really. Genuinely trying to reach out to them doesn't hurt anyone either. The only parties hurt by this thread so far are Lock themselves since everyone can see that they have not responded to my very simple request for clarification.

In case you missed it: Shane actually DID respond to my request and issue in a different thread. So it actually was noticed by Lock. All he said was that they are reviewing it and will get back to us. But technically he has not been completely silent (for those saying that he has...I would say that he MOSTLY has now). Whether he actually follows through and provides answers...that should have easily been given by now...we will see.
05-09-2013 , 03:19 AM
these transfer questions are about a new policy and questions about it get lost in the confusion and uproar of already transferred funds being seized by Lock Poker. We can ask direct questions here, and request straight facts. That is what policies are for, to eliminate ambiguity and confusion.

I doubt they have answers for even the simplest questions however, as the policy does not address past play through. In other words, you have deposited and lost 10k on the site in the last few years, and had one transfer for $500. Does that mean you can never withdraw that transferred $500 even though you have lost it many times over?

From what I understand in reading the latest Lock email replies, ALL transferred monies will never be removed from Lock Poker under any circumstances/
05-09-2013 , 09:49 AM
Good news if they really do make their official statement about this and include a playthru which has been previewed for today.

After that, if they actually follow through in 2-3 weeks and process Skrill cashouts for ROW players then the transfer rate can start to climb back up to something slightly less embarrassing. Hopefully all those who want to get their money off will actually be able to do so.
05-09-2013 , 02:32 PM
Hmmmm, it was easy for Rizen to post up the tranfer/cashout policy and even a couple of examples back in Nov 2011.

How things have changed since then, the policy and Lock's ability to communicate said policy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LockRizen
There is a 7 day wait period to withdraw after a transfer, but no play through requirements. Also if said player had enough of their own funds in their account they could withdraw immediately.

For example:

Player A transfers $1000 to player B who has $500 in their account. Player B could withdraw up to $500 for the next 7 days then any amount up to the full $1500 after that.

Player C transfers $1000 to Player D who had $5000 in their account. Player C would have $5000 withdrawable for the next 7 days then any amount up to $6000 after that.

Thanks

-Rizen
05-09-2013 , 04:53 PM
Indeed. I miss Rizen as well.

The professionalism and competence of the representative on here can't make up for total chaos and zero cashout ability. But it still is helpful to have somebody who can be attentive and can represent the site without putting his foot in his mouth or giving false or misleading information. Rizen wasn't perfect but he was damn good...and was pretty much 100% professional at all times.

His representation on here is pretty much why/how I signed up with Lock in the first place...way back in the Right-After-Black-Friday era.
05-09-2013 , 04:59 PM
Shane:
Quote:
Lock Poker Clarifies P2P Transfer Withdrawal Policy
Curacao May 9th, 2013

Through a detailed investigation over the past few weeks the Lock security team uncovered a large group of persons that were abusing the P2P transfer policy and creating a large network of mule accounts to move and withdraw funds without any play at all taking place.

To deal with this situation a policy change was put into place to clear out the backlog of withdrawals by accounts with little to no play and increase the speed of withdrawals for players taking actual winnings.

Lock has introduced a new cash-out policy for transferred funds which requires a player to accumulate at least 15% in GGR on the funds received via P2P transfer before these funds are cashed-out. Put simply, for every $100 of transferred funds to be withdrawn, $15 of rake or fees will need to be accumulated beforehand.

The policy change was put in place explicitly to put an end to money laundering via Lock's player transfers. Players withdrawing winnings are not affected.

Lock will continue to process withdrawals and work to reduce all withdrawal delays over the coming weeks.

A large amount of mis-information has been spread recently on various poker news sites and forum postings about player funds being lost in recent banking scandals; none of this is true.
http://lockpoker.eu/news/
05-09-2013 , 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MicroBob
Indeed. I miss Rizen as well.

The professionalism and competence of the representative on here can't make up for total chaos and zero cashout ability. But it still is helpful to have somebody who can be attentive and can represent the site without putting his foot in his mouth or giving false or misleading information. Rizen wasn't perfect but he was damn good...and was pretty much 100% professional at all times.

His representation on here is pretty much why/how I signed up with Lock in the first place...way back in the Right-After-Black-Friday era.
+1

Rizen was the person who led me to Lock as well. Thanks for all the headaches Eric!

Yeah, Night and Day between Eric and Shane.

      
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