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Originally Posted by Fordham
I get your point about that if 1000 people request withdrawals and 20 from 2p2 of them fall through the cracks than that 20 are going to start threads and complain and the 980 that went through perfectly will say nothing. That is the state in all customer service(yell if somethings wrong but dont say anything if its great). But logically if 20 fell through the cracks and it was brought to their attention, and they acknowledge that 20 fell through the cracks protocol would dictate that you will make damn well sure that those 20 are corrected ASAP. That is not happening here at all. Add to the fact that people who are not on 2p2 and other forums would have no way of expressing to the public that they have been screwed by lock, because their logic is to just contact lock support which obviously is not going to be made public. And everything I said is giving lock the benefit of the doubt that 980 withdrawals went through, but I do not believe it at all because they lie about everything anyway.
So that would mean we assume most of the withdrawals by average Joes is going through, most of the players on 2p2 are going through and when they do they do not jump to defend lock which is also unlikely because there is an entire thread of withdrawal date and cash in hand date.
The problem is we as players have different objectives than Lock. We want fast cashouts and the truth about our money.
They want to protect their reputation at all costs.
So what does this all mean?
1.) You cannot trust Lock because they want to protect their rep regardless of the truth
2.) It is not personal, keeping your money is always better than giving it right of if for nothing else gaining interest in some bank account
3.) They realize that they are not regulated by any courts so the players cannot file legal action
4.) Its always dangerous when the businessman regulate themselves. It never works and always leads to shay stuff.
Yup. In any pozni some people are paid until the very end. They have to keep the game going.
Sure they might have more traffic, and more cashouts than other US facing networks. But the majority of large cashouts are from the 2p2 community. They may or may not be paying out the recreational micro and low stake guys in a couple months, and most dont care bc they arent long term winners. But like Fordham said well never hear from those people.
I think the 2p2 claims are even more disturbing because most of them are max withdrawals and alot of ROW too. The only reason the big withdrawals take this long for ROW, and even US players is bc they dont have the money. When they scrape together enough to send out a batch of checks they do, and keep the game alive. 4 months is crazy long, and couple that with the new claims that they are 4 months behind on reconciliation payments to other skins and its pretty clear to see they just dont have the money. Id also bet that they dont pay Adam & Eve.
If anyone thinks the Fair Play is anything other than a way to limit big withdrawals, create more rake and hope to kill high stakes action, their mistaken.
Shane is blatantly lying to everyone when he says he knows they arent going under. Anyone that believes that needs to wake up. If the Fair play doesnt work the way they planned, they are most certainly done. The only ones getting paid are their over paid pros.
And no Shane, Mizrachi didnt come cheap like you say. Hes 100% getting over 100k a year. These guys arent promoting Lock out of the goodness of their hearts. Theyre getting paid a nice amount of money to play a small amount of required hands/rake. To say that theyre not paid very much at all, and to hope that anyone here is dumb enough to believe you is laughable. Maybe if you had some no name guys then yes, but unfotunatly the big names come with big price tags.