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07-18-2013 , 12:14 AM
if he is truly buying up lock funds at market value, i feel a lot better about the situation. he might not be privy to the entire picture but he certainly is more informed than the rest of us. he's not an idiot, and he wouldn't throw away money on a poor investment, especially when he already has a six-figure balance stuck on there. this makes me considerably more confident that we will EVENTUALLY (could be awhile) get our money. we'll see.
07-18-2013 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dicejam
if he is truly buying up lock funds at market value, i feel a lot better about the situation. he might not be privy to the entire picture but he certainly is more informed than the rest of us. he's not an idiot, and he wouldn't throw away money on a poor investment, especially when he already has a six-figure balance stuck on there. this makes me considerably more confident that we will EVENTUALLY (could be awhile) get our money. we'll see.
Wrong.

When it comes to poker, he seems to be a good player, and appears smart on the felt.

Off the felt, he is the epitome of the naive kid, all too trusting and easily manipulated.

I mean, listen to what he said in the video. His entire reason for trusting Lock was talking to Jennifer Larson in Portugal, and hearing a bunch of stories about "plans" to make everything better.

He has seen no concrete evidence that Lock has the player funds, and has no solid information that things will actually get better.

His entire support of Lock is based upon "Jennifer told me it would..."
07-18-2013 , 04:25 AM
i know nothing about the guy so maybe you're right and he is an idiot. it still is comforting to me that someone who has access to more information regarding lock's overall situation than the rest of us has decided that buying up lock funds at a discounted rate is a good investment, despite the fact that he already has over $100,000 tied up on the site. i certainly feel better than i did when i heard about the other pros trying to unload at .33.
07-18-2013 , 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dicejam
i know nothing about the guy so maybe you're right and he is an idiot. it still is comforting to me that someone who has access to more information regarding lock's overall situation than the rest of us has decided that buying up lock funds at a discounted rate is a good investment, despite the fact that he already has over $100,000 tied up on the site. i certainly feel better than i did when i heard about the other pros trying to unload at .33.
I can guarantee you that he has no access to "information".

He has access to empty promises and false explanations that were meant to let the pros with a conscience sleep better while staying aboard this sinking ship.

I don't think he's a bad kid, but is just naive and too trusting, and definitely in denial.

It is very easy to be led to a conclusion that you want to see reached.

When I used to visit chat rooms years ago, I remember there were "women" who were very clearly men in disguise. The signs were quite obvious that these "hot chicks" were fake, but I found that certain guys were in denial about this, and in fact lashed out at me when I tried to tell them the truth. I came to learn that these otherwise hetero guys would rather stay the course and continue their online romance with the phony "woman" than be forced to admit to themselves that they had been hot-chatting a dude for several months.

So that's basically where guys like PrimoridialAA stand right now. He could use common sense and realize that Lock has degenerated into a Full-Tilt-like scam, but that would require coming to terms with the fact that he represented such a shady company, as well as continued promoting them for months after being made aware of what was occurring. It's much easier for him to simply close his eyes, believe what Jennifer told him, and hope everything turns out okay.
07-18-2013 , 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jackpot_1mil
you have no chance off anything getting better, lock poker owes the network over 4 million dollars. Why do you really think lock poker is segregated from the rest off the networks on the skin? its only a matter off time before the doj puts a stop to this ponzi scheme! somthing has to be done, and real soon!!
What is a Ponzi Scheme?

I can't wait to see the US Department of Justice a.k.a. doj ride in on their white horses and relieve of us all of this vile being known in its material form as Lock Poker.
07-18-2013 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Kilowatt
I can guarantee you that he has no access to "information".
I agree, because if he had access to information, he would jump ship, because Lock is broke.
07-18-2013 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bictor Vlom
No problem Hammer. Shane is chasing that down! Its in a "queue", "batch", or "pipe" and will be posted real soon...................


Should the thread title be changed:

PrimordialAA disappears
I'm was serious with my question. There has been no report on any of the major poker news sites that Cake, Revolution (or whatever you want to call the Network) has made the claim that Lock owes $4M to them.

It's a strong statement to make without a source link.
07-18-2013 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by dicejam
i know nothing about the guy so maybe you're right and he is an idiot. it still is comforting to me that someone who has access to more information regarding lock's overall situation than the rest of us has decided that buying up lock funds at a discounted rate is a good investment, despite the fact that he already has over $100,000 tied up on the site. i certainly feel better than i did when i heard about the other pros trying to unload at .33.
This is what he said on May 5 (his bold, not mine btw)

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Originally Posted by PrimordialAA
ROW Cashouts - Merchants have limits, US facing sites have been denied skrill (see bodog iirc) and it's about building long term trust with them, there was a lot of abuse from the affiliate side abusing their prioritized cashouts. At this point Mel (and myself) can tell you that to the absolute best of our knowledge things SHOULD get better, you've even been given a time frame (max June, likely sooner). Now that some of the abuse has been addressed the backlog can and should be cleared pretty quickly while Lock still remains within it's limits. I know you guys and everyone else have waited a long time and all been super skeptical, this is the first time recently we've gotten a CONCRETE answer and also are able to share it with everyone else, all of us have been told that they WILL get better and we have a time frame, so let's give it 3 weeks and see if things go as smoothly as expected. This should be a great barometer for everyone and honestly all we can do at this point is wait for it to come true so no amount of berating/freaking out/etc. is going to change anything yet, we know you guys are calling for heads to roll but you have *some* answers now give Lock a chance to redeem themselves to you as they are promising to do it's a very tricky time for an operator in this market and I can tell you I honestly believe 100% in what Jen is doing and has planned and I wouldn't be representing this site if I didn't, and definitely would NEVER stay around if I knew something was wrong. Plain and simple.
Still comforting?
07-18-2013 , 10:55 AM
Well like I said.. "he" can believe whatever he wants.
07-18-2013 , 10:59 AM
Two and a half months later.. Where's that barometer gone?!?!
07-18-2013 , 11:01 AM
Awful player, worse person
07-18-2013 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dicejam
i know nothing about the guy so maybe you're right and he is an idiot. it still is comforting to me that someone who has access to more information regarding lock's overall situation than the rest of us has decided that buying up lock funds at a discounted rate is a good investment, despite the fact that he already has over $100,000 tied up on the site. i certainly feel better than i did when i heard about the other pros trying to unload at .33.
He also said he moved from the US and his last 2 cashouts were 10 weeks and 5 weeks. So while US players are waiting 6 months for a few hundred bucks (and more), he's buying up lock funds on the cheap while getting a quick cashout.

Would he be doing the same thing if he was in "the batch" with all the other US players?

Is this expressing "faith" in Lock, or exploiting US players who cant get their money off Lock?

The "barometer of give it 3-4 weeks" has passed without improvement, why has he not addressed this?

He has a great reputation. Just ask him, and he will tell you.........................
07-18-2013 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HammerMan72
Well like I said.. "he" can believe whatever he wants.
Well at this point it would be pretty hard for him to believe that there's going to be big improvements within 3 weeks of May 5 since its already come and gone, and there isn't any reason for anyone to put any stock into what he believes, or what he claims to believe, when he has already done this once, and even used the words concrete time frame, and was wrong.

Its also pretty obvious its not just a matter of him having good intentions, but being stupid or naive. If that were true, he would address a lot more things than he does.
07-19-2013 , 04:48 PM
Please help

When he says "I am not getting money off of the site any faster than anyone else my last 2 cashouts took 10 weeks and 5 weeks" For me personally my last cashout took 16 weeks and im on week 5 of my current one. If there is a way to get my cashouts in 5 or even 10 weeks please let me know.
07-19-2013 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FUBU_05
Please help

When he says "I am not getting money off of the site any faster than anyone else my last 2 cashouts took 10 weeks and 5 weeks" For me personally my last cashout took 16 weeks and im on week 5 of my current one. If there is a way to get my cashouts in 5 or even 10 weeks please let me know.
I think he put his foot in his mouth with that one. There was a lot of stuff he said that does not add up. He probably thought mentioning that he was buying up lock funds would come across as having faith in the company. To me it comes across as an insider exploiting a bad situation. The people he helped sign up in the US wait 6 months and because he is abroad he can cash out in 5 weeks. Shady
07-19-2013 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bictor Vlom
I think he put his foot in his mouth with that one. There was a lot of stuff he said that does not add up. He probably thought mentioning that he was buying up lock funds would come across as having faith in the company. To me it comes across as an insider exploiting a bad situation. The people he helped sign up in the US wait 6 months and because he is abroad he can cash out in 5 weeks. Shady
yeah i didnt even want to touch that topic because i heard people were having there cashout option taken away for doing that exact same thing and ohh come to mention hes getting that money faster than people playing by the rules imagine that.
07-20-2013 , 05:50 AM
HammerMan buys $5,000 Lock from Hubbard @.26 and sells it to Primo @.33.


Who's da winner?
07-20-2013 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HammerMan72
HammerMan buys $5,000 Lock from Hubbard @.26 and sells it to Primo @.33.


Who's da winner?
If you think you profited on that group of transactions, not much I can do but laugh at you.
07-21-2013 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by HammerMan72
HammerMan buys $5,000 Lock from Hubbard @.26 and sells it to Primo @.33.


Who's da winner?
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Originally Posted by chiefsfan17
If you think you profited on that group of transactions, not much I can do but laugh at you.
07-21-2013 , 09:37 AM
Shane, is anyone accountable for Lock Poker's reputation? You're the only one who is consistently showing up to defend Lock. Granted, we may not like what you say all the time, but you rarely disappear for too long.

PrimordialAA didn't speak up, he regurgitated all the crap he's been fed by Lock's upper management.
07-22-2013 , 11:02 AM
07-22-2013 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefsfan17
If you think you profited on that group of transactions, not much I can do but laugh at you.
Uhm I was obviously joking

Last edited by HammerMan72; 07-22-2013 at 12:05 PM. Reason: Doh! Quoted myself...
08-04-2013 , 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bictor Vlom
He came across well on the interview. And then he posted in the NVG thread, and his credibility went right down the shoot. Cmon, why avoid answering some pretty easy questions and then disappearing? How does that instill confidence or improve communication? His comment about being "ambushed" and then immediately backtracking when SrlySirius showed up was the best part.
IMO, He looks like a guy stuck between a rock and a hard place. He has a lot of money stuck on Lock and he's probably worried about getting it off. He doesn't want to take .25-.30 on the dollar, but he is probably worried about getting stiffed. If he blasts away at Lock he is probably biting the hand that feeds him and risks getting zilch. So maybe silence is golden for him until he can get his money off. But when you lie with dogs, you wake up with fleas.
I think the phrase is actually "when you lie with dogs, you get some really weird STD that baffles doctors and is not cured by antibiotics."

It's a cautionary tale about why sleeping with animals is really unhealthy and dangerous.

Basically, PrimordialAA shouldn't associate with Lock because he'll get a dog STD and that's worse than .33c to the dollar.

      
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