http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...SGzZtbm-A#t=0s

If you haven't seen from the news, view, gossip forums section, here is a link for the following interview. While he does seem genuine, he offers very vague responses and details, basically giving us nothing new. He is just an affiliate to represent lock because lock can't represent themselves at this point in time.

Very interesting and good interview. From his body language I believe that he's genuine about how he feels about the situation.

coulda made the video a 30 sec instead of 5min, everything he has to say is said within 30 seconds. Constantly repeating yourself that he thinks Lock is still gonna pay doesn't make it anymore true.

I can respect this for sure! I too believe this interview was a genuine gesture and not to just get people off his back. I respect that he doesn't necessarily promote the website to bring new business but continues to play on the site and believes in their future. Well played sir.

I don't. He's still standing in front of a camera telling people that Lock will be fine and providing nothing but his word to back that up even though all evidence suggests otherwise and his word has already been wrong.

If you want to see how sincere he really is, check out the NVG thread and watch him dodge questions and vanish when confronted about various issues with Lock.

Please change thread title:

PrimordialAA speaks up to defend Lock, refuses to answer questions, and disappears.

I don't see it that way. He said clearly that he would not ask anyone to sign up to the site the way things are right now nor does he want to sign players until things get better.

He then said that "he" believes the things he has been told in Portugal and that eventually things will get better.

Well, that is his good right. He can believe whatever he wants to belive. From my point of view what he said was straight and honest enough to give him a +1

He came across well on the interview. And then he posted in the NVG thread, and his credibility went right down the shoot. Cmon, why avoid answering some pretty easy questions and then disappearing? How does that instill confidence or improve communication? His comment about being "ambushed" and then immediately backtracking when SrlySirius showed up was the best part.
IMO, He looks like a guy stuck between a rock and a hard place. He has a lot of money stuck on Lock and he's probably worried about getting it off. He doesn't want to take .25-.30 on the dollar, but he is probably worried about getting stiffed. If he blasts away at Lock he is probably biting the hand that feeds him and risks getting zilch. So maybe silence is golden for him until he can get his money off. But when you lie with dogs, you wake up with fleas.

Didn't see the NVG post just the video.

Of course he's stuck between two chairs. That's why I said "what he said was straight enough" cause what do you expect anyone still signed to say about their contractor (actually in any business). For me what he said was good enough the rest we all know ourselfs and gladly, unlike pros, we are free to really speak our minds without risking our money or any contract.

I remember the silence of all the PokerStars pros after black friday and how Daniel wouldn't dare to say anything at all pro or contra Stars and the same goes for a bunch of other pros. Did they know that their companies were laundering money and operate ilegally.. of course they did. Do we blame them today? No we don't.

He said all the same things months ago and that there would be big improvements in 3-4 weeks. That didn't happen, so I'm not sure why anyone would think that he's being honest repeating the same thing now. How many times are you going to listen to the same broken record with no evidence of that message being true before you wake up?

his intent is well, his judgement is atrocious

This is a legit concern.

From #25 of the Lock Terms and Conditions:

http://lockpoker.eu/support/terms/

Plus, they are just super scummy in general, regardless of what the T&C says.

Gotta watch what you say on the forums!

Yes. If he has got over 6 figures of his own money on the site plus friends and families, he is in a bind. I can understand that if he comes out against Lock, those scumbags could butthurt him financially. so yes, I get it.

But, just keep your mouth shut. Don't keep saying that you believe things are going to turn around, you believe in management, and you are actively buying Lock funds. Then you are once again being a paid shill and trying to put perfume on a pig. People can read between the lines................

I don't think the T&C about talking bad about the company applies in this case.

If he had resigned and was refusing to talk about it, then I could see how #25 applies.

But if he really thinks Lock is super scummy and shady, he could resign and be quiet and #25 would not apply to him.

The forum part in #25 is really petty. How long has that been in effect? Do other sites have the same type of rules?

Does this mean that any time a fish says that the site is rigged you can remove their bankroll? If not, how can you selectively enforce it based on which customers you are +EV to steal from and which you are not? Or which you dislike and which you are OK that they make up stuff about you?

Just a few issues with #25 obviously.

#25 has been there the entire time and has been discussed on forums many times, Im yet to ever see it used as grounds to close an account.

Yeah I've not ever seen anyone say this happened to them either, on any forum.

It's probably more like a safeguard against really extreme cases of slander..

Never seen it applied either and if Lock would want to go down that route about 85% of the people on this sub-forum would have had their accounts shut down by now.

I also don't think it would be in Lock's favour to apply this paragraph at the moment unless it's a really serious case since it would blow up like a nuclear plant if reported on this forum and found to be a clear case of abusing said paragraph.

You know damn well it's been used before.

An affiliate had an issue with Lock, tried to get in touch with Shane, but was ignored for weeks and weeks.

He started a thread at PAL explaining his problem, and asking if anyone else knew how to get in touch with Shane. His affiliate account was closed by Jen Larson for talking **** on the forums about Lock, and he was screwed out of what he was owed.

Lock Poker's affiliate program was blacklisted by several affiliates due to this.

Here's the original thread:

http://www.pokeraffiliatelistings.co...hargeback.html

Here's a cliffs of the situation and official blacklisting:

http://www.affiliatebible.com/progra...ram-review.php

Another blacklisting:

http://www.ultimatepokerbankroll.com...er-blacklisted

PrimordialAA busts the main event and has to answer Lock Poker cashout problems... YAY!

His player account was never closed his affiliate account was.

And that decision was reversed soon after after further discussions between the affiliate and Jen.

Its also important to add that the problem at the core of that issue was the number of fraudulent players signing up through the affiliate and the affiliates actions that led to the banning were his reaction to his account being penalised for bringing those fraudulent players through. It wasn't as simple as your cliffs make it seem, and it certainly wasn't as simple as he made comments on a forum and was banned.

Shane,

When will we be getting a "State of Lock" update from Jen????

I'll do it for her. We're clearing the backlog and things will get better.

you have no chance off anything getting better, lock poker owes the network over 4 million dollars. Why do you really think lock poker is segregated from the rest off the networks on the skin? its only a matter off time before the doj puts a stop to this ponzi scheme! somthing has to be done, and real soon!!

2nd time I've read this "4M owned to the network" line today. Anybody has a link to the source of this info floating around?

No problem Hammer. Shane is chasing that down! Its in a "queue", "batch", or "pipe" and will be posted real soon...................


Should the thread title be changed:

PrimordialAA disappears