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04-28-2013 , 06:57 AM

#101

SenorKeeed

mew mew mew

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 37,478

lol the "problem is huge." The problem of players transferring money to other players who then (gasp) withdraw it. UNSUSTAINABLE

04-28-2013 , 06:58 AM

#102

DrRepper

adept

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 759

shane how bout you ****ing tell us the details of whether our livelihoods will be available to us? okay? jesus christ man

04-28-2013 , 07:22 AM

#103

JimAfternoon

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 6,903

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

lol the "problem is huge." The problem of players transferring money to other players who then (gasp) withdraw it. UNSUSTAINABLE

lolololol.

If I decide to ship 100 bucks to mccormick, it doesn't matter if he pays me 1 dollar, or 200, or nothing at all. Lock owed me 100, and now they owe it to him. Their liabilites are exactly the same, but now "the problem is huge" --> cashouts are on lockdown while we investigate. wtf

04-28-2013 , 07:23 AM

#104

imjustshane

Lock Poker Representative

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 2,661

I was hoping to get the full explanation before posting instead of posting the vague information I was sharing with Mccormick. That hasn't come through yet so just wanted to confirm what he posted above.

I have confirmed this morning that this does not mean players who have received transfers will bever be able to cashout.

Im still waiting to hear how it will work exactly, as soon as I have that information I will come back in here with it.

And security have reiterated that any players with questions can direct these directly to the security team at security@lockpoker.eu

04-28-2013 , 07:25 AM

#105

Mccormick

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,982

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

lol the "problem is huge." The problem of players transferring money to other players who then (gasp) withdraw it. UNSUSTAINABLE

To be fair, you do realise poker sites are very often used to launder money, aswell as other abuse and weird quirks that could pop up when situations get created where money is traded on forums for 0.5$ per 1$ etc?

I'm obviously NOT saying they haven't created this situation theirselves, but that doesn't take away from my point in any way, it's still a reality that now abuse can very easily take place.

04-28-2013 , 07:29 AM

#106

JimAfternoon

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 6,903

How could anybody launder money? They'd never be able to cash out.

Money laundering, lol.

04-28-2013 , 07:34 AM

#107

Mccormick

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,982

You clearly didn't follow all of this, did you. Affiliate accounts / people who for some reason got faster cashouts etc.

That being said, your point is still valid for a good part: then why did all these other people without faster cashouts get their withdrawal cancelled aswell is also beyond me.

04-28-2013 , 07:34 AM

#108

SenorKeeed

mew mew mew

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 37,478

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mccormick

Shane didn't mention anything about concern about laundering money, not sure how that would work anyway when cashouts are so slow and unreliable.

What weird quirks are you talking about?

04-28-2013 , 07:35 AM

#109

reino

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 568

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimAfternoon

How could anybody launder money? They'd never be able to cash out.

Money laundering, lol.

Money laundering your money from 0.5 on the $ to nothing

Now thats a masterplan for the criminals

04-28-2013 , 07:41 AM

#110

Mccormick

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,982

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

Shane didn't mention anything about concern about laundering money, not sure how that would work anyway when cashouts are so slow and unreliable.

What weird quirks are you talking about?

He didn't say anything about it, it's something i'm saying just to show an example of how and why abuse could take place. Are people really this dense?

As said above and as said before by Shane, some people DID get faster cashouts, so there lies the problem.

Anyways, i'm not the Lock rep, when people start pointing these questions to me, i'm clearly doing something wrong, so that'll likely be it for me. Ask Shane, ask the security e-mail he gave you, whatever.

04-28-2013 , 07:55 AM

#111

SenorKeeed

mew mew mew

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 37,478

hahahahaha wtf are you babbling about. SHILL4LYFE

04-28-2013 , 07:57 AM

#112

Mccormick

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,982

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

hahahahaha wtf are you babbling about. SHILL4LYFE

LOL you're so dumb, **** me

04-28-2013 , 08:36 AM

#113

reino

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 568

I hope ur friend got his money out ??

04-28-2013 , 08:41 AM

#114

pro_FLUFFER

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 260

^deleted my post till i talk to support. he has received 1 max cash out so far. his and mine that were in progress were both cancelled. if somthing isnt resolved soon i will post all the info

04-28-2013 , 08:42 AM

#115

hankwhite69

banned

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,249

Im transferring everyone in this thread a dollar

04-28-2013 , 08:44 AM

#116

vanity02

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 354

playthrough requirements/wagering reqs and not being able to withdraw after receiving a transfer are two completely separate situations. And for support to so call "mess up" on relaying the message is pretty huge. Obviously I feel that if it was a big mistake like Shane claims, a normal company would follow through with another email to everyone with a public apology and the "mis-wording" clarifying the situation. No? I'm not trying to grill the messenger, just stating the obvious.

04-28-2013 , 08:45 AM

#117

hankwhite69

banned

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,249

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanity02

playthrough requirements/wagering reqs and not being able to withdraw after receiving a transfer are two completely separate situations. And for support to so call "mess up" on relaying the message is pretty huge. Obviously I feel that if it was a big mistake like Shane claims, a normal company would follow through with another email to everyone with a public apology and the "mis-wording" clarifying the situation. No? I'm not trying to grill the messenger, just stating the obvious.

Do you see the mistake in your post?

04-28-2013 , 09:06 AM

#118

reino

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 568

Quote:

Originally Posted by hankwhite69

Im transferring everyone in this thread a dollar

Please dont

04-28-2013 , 09:12 AM

#119

Mccormick

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,982

Quote:

Originally Posted by hankwhite69

Im transferring everyone in this thread a dollar

Yeah.. I really love this one. Can people please post if they DID transfer and did NOT get their withdrawal cancelled? I'm one of them, but i'd like to know if there's more of you out there.

Also, to goofballs like SenorKeeed, i'm only here to try help investigate and help others, since my withdrawal wasn't even cancelled, if you want i can just leave it be, got nothing to gain here so far anyway, infact the opposit if people apparantly will go out of their way to once again bash me.

04-28-2013 , 09:47 AM

#120

ownage4u

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 235

i guess if my withdrawals arent allowed till the end of next week, best line is to get lawyer involved? i dont see why i should allow lock to effectively steal that much money from me without even pretending to have a logic behind it

04-28-2013 , 10:22 AM

#121

Money4Bacon

enthusiast

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 48

So If I am correct, it sounds as if we transfer to another player and he requests a WU withdrawal it should be ok(ok as in still taking 5 months). Is it still only affecting Skrill??

04-28-2013 , 10:24 AM

#122

ffguitarguy

banned

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 22

What the **** ?!!?!?!

They deleted my original post with the email i received from donkey Steven at Security.

04-28-2013 , 10:27 AM

#123

SenorKeeed

mew mew mew

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 37,478

We should probably be posting in the Internet Poker forum, where the Lock Minister of Propaganda can't delete what we write at will.

04-28-2013 , 10:48 AM

#124

vanity02

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 354

Quote:

Originally Posted by hankwhite69

Do you see the mistake in your post?

+1 indeed lol

04-28-2013 , 10:49 AM

#125

BreakYaNeck

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,187

Quote:

Originally Posted by imjustshane

Shane I do not think you understand, well really anything when it comes to business or not being scum. How can Lock punish players for doing something that was not against the rule at the time, of course you do not make this so called new rule public either. Us players have to find out on our own once again. You should be thanking these players because if it wasnt for these players buying funds, you would not have any players playing on the site whatsoever since it is very clear you do not want to pay people out in any reasonable timely matter if at all.

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