So apparently if you recieved a p2p transfer there is no play through requirement, but there is no way of ever retrieving a cashout either... confirmed on 2 threads. This is bs... so in essence they have pretty much confiscated the funds of every account that has recieved a transfer. The only way to get your money off, is to fool some poor sap into buying your lock or dump it get caught and have your funds confiscated anyways. Anything we can do legally about this?

So you can get a player transfer but you can't cash that portion of your balance out?

!!!?!!?!?!

What are they for then!? SUppose you had $0 and you get a $1000 player 2 player transfer. You can't cash out the $1000, but what if you used that $1000 to make $5000 profit? I guess you have a "permanent $1000 bankroll"? (assuming you don't lose it)

For whatever reason, in my case, this is exactly what it sounds like...


I have recieved transfers in the past, I play on them, I cash some of it out, its just the nature of playing poker online...

I have won 15k ish in the last 3 months, profit, and they say I can't cashout becasue I have had transfers..

and I have been a customer well before black friday..

No your way off, try if you recieve a transfer of 1$. your account will no longer have the ability to cashout and all money on your account is converted to the new $ called lockopoly money. I must stress this is not play money, because you can still potentially win money from other players that deposit, but the money can not in anyway be removed from lock unless you lose it, or sell it

There is enough high roller on lockpoker with a lot of money into their account to take legal action in few days and share the cost of it if they dont inform us of how we can cash out.

right now if you received a p2p previously and won 1 million dollar with it, you cant cash out this 1 million dollar. That's what they call "Fair Play" ?

Just wanted to post in here to say Ive seen this thread and I have written to management and security to get more details on this and exactly how its supposed to work.

Shane here right until the end just like FTP Doug was......

the whole point is for the cashouts to not work

Hello to all .

I got the same problem after waiting for more than 70 days.

And when I was supposted to get payed they cancel and give me the same answer.

So they know there is a market of the lock cash and people trade cash because of the withdraw problems. So I dont understand .

That for me is too hold the cash the most possible. And avoiding a ton of people from cashout .

Before this they tried to implement a system that people that got cash from players and then withdraw payed a fee of 3,5 % . just like 2 months ago. But even that is not good . They want to keep the cash in the site . This screams for a big problem in lock ..

Simple, stop everyone from cashing out while you guys grab the money and run like hell

Shane, at what point while working for Lock did you realize you have no soul?

@donswan no offense taken, just wanted to point out my mistake is not as bad as it prolly looks like. the situation is just ridic

@vaanity so just to make sure: if i transfer away like 100k and receive a transfer of 10k, deposited 50k at the beginning and won 300k for example, the bankroll would be 260k. im not allowed to withdraw any money even though my net incoming transfers are even negative?

thats just straightforward theft

Ahh this is scary.

How can you sit there with a clean conscious and attempt to reassure people when everything that happens with this site points at there being huge problems? If you were paid only once every 4 months do you think you'd continue to lie to the community you're supposed to be helping?

Fair play was also created to make people win less money and result into getting less cash outs.

They have no right to FREEZE our money just because we got a p2p and we will play or played with it.

Currently you got it right until they answer us something else or give us a requirement.

Because I have seen and know enough about the entire picture to know we are going to be fine.

The sad thing is this is coming at a time when cashouts have really started getting back up to speed and that is being lost in the block back from this transfers situation.

Well, geez, why would it be lost in the block when people apparantly get e-mails like this which really can't be misinterpreted.

If this is true and stays into place, then it doesn't even matter anymore how fast or slow the cashouts are for all of us who ever transferred now does it? All funds are Locked up anyway.

How in the **** do you cancel a bunch of cashouts while telling us about quicker cashout times? You really are the master of the reach around, Shane

wow

How is there no quick and definitive response from lock on this?
Shane, i know you are trying to get an answer but do the higher ups not realize how bad it is when threads like this happen?

Nothing to see here /thread

Nb4 you have to pay someone to buy your lock. Screwing stakers and stakees, or anyone who wants to cashout for that matter, classy lock. It's like they don't even know how they get paid...

Whose "entire picture" ?

" We are going to be fine "?

Define "we".

You surely do not mean the player pool and your customers.

Also your definition of cash outs " getting back up to speed " Is 70+ days " up to speed "

I agree.

I'm just wondering how an action such as this one, namely canceling all 10k skrills from people who have received transfers, didn't come with an explanation and plan for these people to get money off when the circumstances are legitimate, and not with the insidious intent that Lock has charged all these players with.

It goes to show that the way this was handled created more hysteria in a situation which is already sensitive to begin with. Its not the first time.

Regardless of the results in this thread, one thing that wont change will be the nature in which a lot of these problems occur, and how they are resolved, because it is most unsettling for the player pool to sweat things that are absolutely standard an most any other site, even some of which are U.S based accepting U.S players.

And it is a pattern, so the hysteria only increases and gathers more steam.

I understand that Shane has a better sense of the entire picture, and he may be confident, however, given that we aren't really informed of maybe even half the picture, I'm just not sure that the confidence is relevant, because it can't really be proven, and its not like anyones ensuring our money, so, we're just lol ****ed.

Shane,

if the below is true:

"there are no wagering requirements; player transfers are ineligible for payouts."

then why hasn't it been added to the ToS yesterday?

and

does this mean if a player has received $500 via player transfer and wins $200 (having $700 total in their account) that they can only cashout $200?

Cashout times are getting better?

Orly

What planet are you on Shane? Serious question.

Is this for real??? Wtf?