So has anyone as of the past 2 weeks, that have received transfer via p2p not been declined for their cashout? By that I mean the stupid email saying that the funds you receive from other players are meant for playing and are not able to cash-out. Just want to do a head count, seems like everyone who has bought lock from another player is unable to cashout. Thanks for the replies.

Received a transfer 20 april requested Skrill cashout 22 april. No e-mail received, no cashout cancelled (yet?) May just be because the cashout is too recent and they didn't get to it yet, or ofcourse because i'm a "shill" ;-)

Will see which it is depending on how many others reply to this and/or if mine gets cancelled too in the near future..?

all of my cashouts are being declined with the reasoning that transfered funds are not eglible for withdrawal.

that being said, i have over 200k$ in my account and im not even sure that the volume of incoming transfers is higher than outgoing transfers. certainly the difference is not nearly 200k lol. clearly the vast majority of my funds originate from poker winnings so i should obviously be allowed to withdraw that money (and the rest (aka difference incoming - outgoing transfers) after it has been raked up)

furthermore lock refuses to tell me how much rake i have to create so that im allowed to do the next withdrawal and also told me that there is no fee i can pay so that i can go for the next withdrawal

moral of the story, lock tries to scam me off my money

furthermore im not even

Can i just ask one question? What sane person has 200k on Lock ever? Then also, if you have that money on your account, how do you possibly get any incoming transfers ever in at least the recent history?

Before you say "because i simply won that much", well, let me explain you one short logic: if you really did win that much, you should've sold almost all of it off ages ago (only kept enough to play and some extra to make sure you make use of all your cashout times). Any other amount, if you sell it off at 0.5, you could've kept those funds seperate, leave em untouched, and once you can withdraw more again, you buy it back at 0.5, that way you never lose any $ and at least you have some "insurance" that a good part of your funds are safe elsewhere.

i didnt have any incoming transfers during the last 6 months for sure

yea agree that it was a mistake not to sell, won basically all of it in december last year

anyways, this is not about what i should have done, but its about why lock is not letting me withdraw the money

hilarious!

You should post this front and center in the lock forum That is an insande amount .

Yeah, but i should think more before i post. Damn, i'm sorry if you really are in this situation and this isn't some troll just stirring things up here again (which i give 50+% chance btw)

my screenname is Schneller (saniker/raulgonzalez other sites). if u look at lobby and ptr, u will find my post to be true very likely

where/how shall i post it?

I'm not 100% sure of this, but rake is not the determining factor for cashouts, it's wager amount.

e.g. so if you received 50k in transfers, then you must wager 50k as the playthrough amount is 1:1 right now.

Shane should confirm this ratio or someone should, this is crazy.

This is definately correct. Or at least, if nothing's changed it's definately correct.

http://www.pokertableratings.com/cak...arch/Schneller

In your case, your rake paid is so low, maybe you really didn't play it through yet.

schmeller was this when Marlo chip dumped his roll to you after taking it off cogitus and gaydar

True, but you had 200k on Lock, you would have contact with a Lock representative, you would know the play through requirements, you would know the max cashout rules, you would know every way possible to get and protect your money, wouldn't you?

I'm not saying the guy doesn't have 200k on there, but wow!

my thread got stolen :| lol... but yeah 200k? wow... really?

haha, glad I could help out.

yes your thread did get stolen, but sometimes when one starts a thread where it requires input on members behalf to orderly post, it will morph into something just like this...

Hi everyone!

I received this email from lock securty. I simply asked what was the requirement to be able to cash out money I previously received from a player transfer.

Basically we are getting all scammed now. GG


Steven
APR 27, 2013 | **:**PM EDT

Hello,

Thank you for your reply, there are no wagering requirements; player transfers are ineligible for payouts. Should you require any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us.

All our best,

Steven

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CSR, Lock Security

http://lockpoker.eu
http://lockcasino.eu

Regarding play through - I was under the impression that many guys getting these emails had wagered more than they had received or transferred, and the issue was that support was quoting a different part of the ToC and using that to override the play through.

The longer thread has some details.

Thought I remember reading in the TOS or somewhere else that a 10% or some other fee was charged to cashouts that had not met play through requirements... Too lazy to look that up again & it doesn't really matter to me, but maybe TOS was changed or I was mistaken. Has anyone read through the service agreement/ TOS, etc lately?

i dont really know if u want to consider his losings chipdumping against me, but as it doesnt matter here anyways - yes most of my winnings come from that session

ya sry about that, will create my own thread, dont really see yet what it should be good for

well if u know how to help me, i suggest u contact me via pm and u can earn a lot of money that way

1. im legit. im actually sitting with most of my roll at NLHU highstakes tables, u can actually see the money there and i also mentioned my stars/ftp nick, i should be legit imo.

2. i wrote an email to shane about it, contacted the support several times and all of that never helped at all.

3. why would i read exactly through all possible threads what the playthrough conditions exactly are, if i successfully withdrew money for the last few months (albeit slow)

4. why would i read about max cashout limits, if i didnt have incoming transfers for the last 6 months or so and in total my net transfers incoming (incoming minus outgoing transfers) are pretty much close to 0, at least not any near to the balance in my account?

5. every way possible: i spoke to several affiliates, people i thought could have an idea to help me and nobody was able to help me. if anyone has suggestions, contact me and u get a lot of money that way depending on how well u can help me

the only mistake i really see was not to sell much more directly after winnings vs marlo, but back then withdrawals were proceeded much faster than now. if there is just no real way to withdraw money, i cant do anything about it (although it obv sounds crazy to have >200k on lock account)

There use to be a % charge on accounts that did not meet play through, but obviously that does not apply anymore. Have not read the TOS lately as they could simply change it as I'm reading it, the text would literally change on my pc... oh and of course they wouldn't tell anyone about it either lol...
On the other thread, I skimmed through a good chunk of it since alot of mention was about OP who stated he clearly met the wagering reqs and alot of lock hating. I'll run through it again, but I dont recall alot of posters claiming to be in the same boat. Just posters saying they got the email as well, with no mentions of meeting the wagering reqs.

@ownage4u I have no doubt you have money there.

I hope you don't think I was attacking you. Sorry if you think I did. I was pointing out how wild and crazy it is to keep 200k anywhere without having quick access to it or a point of contact.

I have no interest in 'making money' with you. Making money off of trading Lock funds isn't for me.

If a person had a bank account with 200k in it, they would have a bank manager kissing their tushy. I think they might even get a free juice maker or something.

I remember the last time I had "big money" in a bank, they gave me a set of steak knives. They were stainless steel German made. I even got a business card from the Bank Manager.

Unbelievable.....somebody else just confirmed this is another thread.

Wow lock wth are you doing? Keep running your business into the ground. At one point when you guys first started merge was way behind you, and now its the better place to play for tournaments and its gaining people, not losing them like you guys.

So I believe it is time that the players band together... is there any form of legal action that we can approach in attempts to retrieve our funds? Clearly this robbery, the only way to now get our money is to "dump it" and give them reason to just ban our accounts and confiscate the money anyways.