Multi accounting on Lock 70k gtd! - Page 4 - Two Plus Two

I mean you highly suspect MA'ing in your biggest buyins. I dont see how this isnt a snap freeze and work your ass off to get to the bottom of it. The integrity of lock is falling apart. Get one thing right guys.

This implies there is evidence that exists that hasn't been found yet.

I've had people post in here or PM me with things that we should check to 'verify' what the community believes to be true.

Just because we haven't detailed every step we have taken doesn't mean these steps haven't been taken.

03-14-2013 , 10:25 PM

#77

higher visions

adept

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 827

Bc even when Lock had all the evidence with Girah, and Tmay, they did a whole lot

If they werent basically forced to do something nothing would have happened with those two incidents either. This is nothing new for Lock, cheat and swindle your way to the top is their motto.

03-15-2013 , 01:20 AM

#78

TheVillageGrinder

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 403

Quote:

Originally Posted by imjustshane

Just because we haven't detailed every step we have taken doesn't mean these steps haven't been taken.

LOL this is pretty much a throw away statement because no one will ever know what you do or don't decide to investigate because you being as opaque as possible about even reporting the result of said investigation. This doesn't exactly inspire confidence, esp in light of all of Lock's well documented previous failures.

03-15-2013 , 01:29 AM

#79

TheVillageGrinder

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 403

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneralert

Wow, this is incredible. We aren't dealing with a court of law, with strict evidentiary requirements and a clearly defined burden of proof for establishing guilt. The question security needs to be asking is "Is a violation overwhelmingly likely to have occurred?" If yes, then a proportional punishment for the offending players should be given, and victimized players should be compensated in some way. Are there any observers here who believe this could be a frame-up? I mean would anyone here even put down a dollar to win $99 that the tweet was fabricated?

It's not as if Lock needs to be worried about satisfying some external standards of due process or restraint. They don't need to worry about getting sued by a player banned on insufficient evidence or having their license revoked because of a security judgment call. The only constraints guiding their security process ought to be that it inspires confidence among their customers that they will catch and punish violations when they occur, without falsely accusing/punishing innocent parties. Failing to act here looks like it would pretty clearly fail to meet that standard.

Extremely well said Boner. Your statement is rather logical but unfortunately it makes one false assumption. Your position hinges on the assumption that Lock cares to protect the integrity of the game it offers. Considering they can't even payout ROW players in a timely manner, I'm assuming their days and nights are consumed by contemplating far more urgent concerns (from their perspective) and pursuing an issue such as this would only deplete limited, and already overtaxed, resources.

03-15-2013 , 03:39 AM

#80

hankwhite69

banned

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1,249

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheVillageGrinder

Extremely well said Boner.

Oddly enough,That isnt the first time ive heard this said

03-15-2013 , 10:42 AM

#81

stormblower

adept

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 906

Quote:

Originally Posted by higher visions

Bc even when Lock had all the evidence with Girah, and Tmay, they did a whole lot

I thought they were taking "severe legal action" against Girah? You mean they didn't?

03-15-2013 , 11:48 AM

#82

champstone

banned

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,372

maybe you need vid and signed confession. great security team of dewey, cheatum and howe

03-15-2013 , 02:30 PM

#83

Rant

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,436

If two players are playing in the same location there is no way to know if the better player takes over the 2nd account after busting his.

03-15-2013 , 04:35 PM

#84

nelliesman93

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rant

If two players are playing in the same location there is no way to know if the better player takes over the 2nd account after busting his.

I'm currently building a mouse with finger scan technology that can be read by the poker client. Won't matter though. Better player can still tell the other player what to do.

03-17-2013 , 01:17 PM

#85

ZeckoRiver

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 5,590

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27...xwoods-406356/

Isn't player who tweeted the one above? I can't imagine he would cheat after being such a big proponent of honest play. I wonder why they locked the thread on nvg?

Last edited by ZeckoRiver; 03-17-2013 at 01:32 PM. Reason: played as woman ashley the grinder on merge

03-17-2013 , 02:45 PM

#86

hollisterb22

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 446

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeckoRiver

maybe he's finally done ratting!

03-17-2013 , 02:51 PM

#87

ty71087

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9,308

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeckoRiver

no, mark isnt the one who tweeted. He just felt the need to come in here and spew his standard nonsense to throw everyone off.

03-17-2013 , 02:59 PM

#88

ZeckoRiver

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 5,590

wonder why they closed thread in nvg regarding mark

03-17-2013 , 03:15 PM

#89

sudz

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 111

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiCane

Both accounts should be frozen while they investigate although seems pretty obvious that he was multi-accounting.

Amazing that people who are multi-accounting are dumb enough to brag on twitter.

exactly this is again why I constantly complain about lock, they have so much to sort out and then they take the piss by introducing fair play technology before they've even sorted out cash outs, collusion detection and analysis, network stability etc and something as simple as having an adequate support team aka live support.

03-17-2013 , 03:38 PM

#90

Brett7192

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 20

Both accounts are up and playing a full Sunday Schd.

03-17-2013 , 05:28 PM

#91

Brett7192

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 20

both accts about to ft the 10k 162 on lock mbn

03-17-2013 , 05:36 PM

#92

hollisterb22

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 446

LOL same table!

03-17-2013 , 05:46 PM

#93

burnJa

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,630

Quote:

Originally Posted by ty71087

FWIW Lock snap froze my account because someone who sent me money on Lock had a similar looking email address. $10 ABI player

03-17-2013 , 05:52 PM

#94

ty71087

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 9,308

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett7192

both accts about to ft the 10k 162 on lock mbn

The final table tweet should be interesting

03-17-2013 , 06:13 PM

#95

realeyezImno1

journeyman

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 188

If you are reading this thread Shane you may want to have your security team watching how those two accounts play against each other. Any indication of soft playing and you know what will hit the fan. It is actually quite fitting that this might blow up in locks face.

03-17-2013 , 06:36 PM

#96

dfsuperstar

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,417

I just lost a flip (knocked out) by Ironmaiden in 100K and it leaves a bad feeling in my mouth.

03-17-2013 , 06:53 PM

#97

Doggg

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,121

Early this morning at about 5am I saw oldmanmoves and justfold22 play about 200 grindforglory 200$ and 300$ husng's. They went all in first hand in each one.

I'll assume this is how these rake races are being won.

Such a joke.