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Originally Posted by imjustshane
A couple of things are being confused in this thread so I just wanted to clear them up.
Yes the network has put further changes in place under what they still refer to as "Fair Play".
Now we did support some segregation at an earlier stage to protect our players from the other rooms that had become very reg heavy, and we did initially support the networks implimentation of "Fair Play" to help rectify that situation.
However from day one "Fair Play" hasn't worked as it was billed, it has fractured our network and crushed our player numbers especially as our cashout times have done further damage at the same time. The constant and continual "tweaks" to Fair Play have been ridiculous and we certainly don't support them.
A few weeks ago tweaks were made that clearly benefitted another room and when our players asked me about it I pointed out that this seems to go in cycles. Its as if the network is keep trying to please everyone at the same time but all they end up doing is pleasing one room for a couple of weeks, then they change it again and another room is happy. This is clearly what has happened again this week.
Yes we do care about our poker ecology, we are still in business because we don't rely on high volume grinders we have a balanced room with lots of net depositing casual players. Protecting those players ensures the life of our room.
We also aren't the only people looking at this, Merge has taken a very strong stance on this to protect the casual players from Sportsbook. Several skins have been forced off the network for not bringing in enough casual players and for only being a room that siphon off the deposits from other rooms to their winning players. Hell even rooms that had tried to meet Merge's demands on a balanced ecology have still been forced out. However no one is claiming that this behaviour from Merge is because they are broke, and no one threw a party when Merge went below 500 players.
The real difference is cashouts, our cashout times have been terrible for a while and we need to, are are working towards fixing them.
A couple points...
(1) Referencing what Merge is doing...wait excuse me...what Merge is
considering doing has absolutely no bearing on anything related to Lock. Your referencing of Merge takes me back to my grade school days when Boy A throws a ball at a girl on the playground and hits her in the head. The teacher comes and says...Boy A...your in trouble why did you hit that girl. Boy A says: well Boy B is doing it. The fact Boy B is doing it has no bearing on the fact that Boy A did it. Such reasoning or referencing is absolutely ridiculous and offensive on an intellectual level. Stop blowing smoke, shifting responsibility, or clouding the issue. Such low-brow tactics make Lock and yourself lose any remaining morsel of credibility you have left. Again, as I posted above....the members on this site are not as dumb or naive as you think.
(2) Something I would like to get your intellectual thoughts on...usually when one joins a team, association, corporation or network the concept which works best for said group is for all factions/members to work together towards a common goal. The idea of joining a network and then stripping your players of the ability to play with other skins on the network really defeats the principle of being on a network does it not??? Which begs the question and brings me back to my original allegation/charge listed above....Lock is doing this not because they care about their players....they are doing this because they cannot pay. They simply would rather be liable to Joe Blow as opposed to Intertops and the other Revo skins.
(3) Instead of confirming or denying my allegation you instead allege that fair play is simply the result of Lock protecting the occasional donkey net depositor from high grinding regs. How honorable of you Lock for giving up all that high daily grinding rake all to protect the occasional donkey net depositor. I call bullsh*t. Again, it has nothing to do with you being honorable. It has to do with you not wanting to be liable to Intertops and all other Revo skins. Easy to string along Joe Blow. Not so easy to string along Intertops and all your other fellow network members. This is the sole reason that these "fair play" changes have been made....which leads me to point (4) and the whole problem with your response.
(4) You have not yet confirmed or denied my allegation/charge of whether Lock is liable to other skins when players on other skins have winning sessions against Lock players. Stated another way, the other skin needs to cover their winning players' "wins" against Lock players out of its own individual skin's pocket and then Lock subsequently needs to make that right by compensating the skin which fronted the winnings.
Based on several personal sources, that I believe are highly credible due to their relations with Lock and the network, I personally know my allegation regarding "fair play" is true. Bottom line: Lock has substantial money issues and would rather be on the hook to Joe Blow as opposed to its other network members. Now, that being said, I understand on a strategic level why you, Shane, did not confirm or deny the allegation I put forth above.
Denying would be an outright lie, which I don't put past you (see your information on the little Lock European Castle escapade), however, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here and simply say you just didn't want to get boxed in when you know people have evidence that the allegation/charge I presented above is 100% true. Glad to see you learned from the Castle debacle.
Now, I also understand why you did not admit to it either. Admission would set off a shock wave of fear and scare even more players (rake) away from your site. Thus, while I do not agree with your failure to confirm or deny, I see on a tactical basis why you simple chose to ignore. Lets be honest though my friend....its time for Lock to own its sh*t.
I usually don't get involved in posts of this nature. However, the community has the right to know the truth and reasoning behind Lock's actions. I respect the "poker ecology" (as you put it) and more importantly, so many members on twoplustwo. I find it heartbreaking that you continue your feeble attempt to blow smoke up their a**. Sorry to break it to you bud, they are smarter than you think. Just own it.
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