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06-16-2013 , 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
Actually as it was explained to the player no one gets the money it sits in limbo.

We sent the money to the processor who sent it to the player, when the player didnt collect it in time the transfer was no longer able to be picked up but the risk is too great for the processor to go back to WU and ask for the funds to be returned.

If the funds had come back to us we would have immediately sent it onto the player.
It needs to be sent to the player regardless of whether the money comes back to Lock. The player wasn't notified about the time frame in the email he got so he shouldn't be liable. It should be as simple as that imo
06-17-2013 , 04:02 AM
I got an email from Lock saying that my 2/20 payout is marked as priority...I hope Lock isn't just jerking me around...
06-17-2013 , 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by grenzen
This is imjustshane, and this is complete total nonsense, not in this world, is not even close to any reality.

Shane if sender didnt go back and take the refund, then why cant receiver pick it up? ( only sender can get the refund, not lock)

What on earth do you mean "they" trying to stay under the radar? Whos they? Can you make sense please, this is a support job you have that most of us assume you are getting some compensation for.
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Originally Posted by grenzen
Shane what does staying under the radar have to do with 25 day western union pickups? Why do you think this 2k is still locks money or the processors money?

Western Union has no transaction window for pickups. You guys come up with the cleverest ways to shiv your players. Your response is basically an accusation of money laundering, or your way of ghosting a real problem in a public forum.

Regardless, your 25 day rule is theft. You are taking a REFUND of your payment as per Western Unions terms and conditions. How do you justify taking a refund?
Using WU to process for Americans does not work as simply as personal transfers.

We certainly are not getting a refund on this payment, if we were we would send it straight back to the player.
06-17-2013 , 07:40 AM
Well he doesn't have his money Shane. Either WU or Lock have it, where ever it is, find out, and re-issue it to the player.
06-17-2013 , 08:00 AM
Like I said 3 days ago, your 25 day rule is a added bonus to your processors. No questions asked. Obviously you're not getting the money back.

Every generation of your wu replies have a new twist. Now it's all above everybodys head, we are all so clueless.
06-17-2013 , 08:01 AM
4-16 withdrawal request
6-17 still requested
lol
06-17-2013 , 09:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FT37
Well he doesn't have his money Shane. Either WU or Lock have it, where ever it is, find out, and re-issue it to the player.
WU has it.


Quote:
Originally Posted by grenzen
Like I said 3 days ago, your 25 day rule is a added bonus to your processors. No questions asked. Obviously you're not getting the money back.

Every generation of your wu replies have a new twist. Now it's all above everybodys head, we are all so clueless.
I dont think this is really above everybodys heads, I dont think its too hard to understand the risks involved in the processor making further contact with WU asking for the funds to be returned so they can be reissued.
06-17-2013 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MaliceUW
Still just requested.
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Originally Posted by ilikegreen
4-16 withdrawal request
6-17 still requested
lol

06-17-2013 , 10:25 AM
But they did ask for it back or it would.still be there.... Says right in there tos you have a year. If he didint get it would still be there unless the processor took it back via cancel. At the very least lock should pay him the 2k out of there pocket for not telling him about this until after he got jacked.. Imo this new stupid policy should be in big bold letters directly under the wu c/o option, on your faq,. On your c/o options page, and a email should have been sent out to all players... At the very least in his first confirmation email. There's no excuse for this unless you wanted a new loophole to jack cash outs. If lock had the money they would pay him since it was there fault. But the fact they have to swindle this 2k just proves how broke they are. Just switch sites until regulation comes. If you have funds trade if off for what you can't get. Trying to get it threw them you will just get screwed. Gl evry1
06-17-2013 , 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
WU has it.
What do you suggest the player should do about this?

Either:

1. Lock will follow this up and see if the player can receive his 2k WU withdrawal
or
2. Tell the player too bad, we aren't going to do anything about and for the player to sort it out himself with WU

But for heavens sakes just let him know so he knows what route to take from here, instead of sweating on it until your next reply...
06-17-2013 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
WU has it.




I dont think this is really above everybodys heads, I dont think its too hard to understand the risks involved in the processor making further contact with WU asking for the funds to be returned so they can be reissued.
I dont think this is really above your head. There was no 25 day requirement in November or the entire history of WU as a processing mechanism prior to that. Why should I be out $2000 because the processors you use are unwilling to fix a failed WU cashout? Also, why is the only communication I can get from you on the matter is indirect responses to other people's posts? This is kind of amazing.

Last edited by konar; 06-17-2013 at 11:36 AM.
06-17-2013 , 12:21 PM
You people are seriously dense.

The money has been confiscated,and the sender has been banned because they figured out it was a gambling transaction.


Its almost certain that every WU sender they use gets banned within a week or two.
06-17-2013 , 12:38 PM
Then they shouldn't offer it. Other USA sites are paying out. Don't defend these scumbags **** they can't even handle row half the time...
06-17-2013 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Schwatt
You people are seriously dense.

The money has been confiscated,and the sender has been banned because they figured out it was a gambling transaction.


Its almost certain that every WU sender they use gets banned within a week or two.
Thank you for pointing out the obvious, chief. The dispute here is whether this is Lock's liability, consistent with common sense and the policy of every reputable online poker establishment in the history of online poker, INCLUDING LOCK in the past, or the player's liability.
06-17-2013 , 02:26 PM
3/5 processed
4/2? verified
6/17 sender info
06-17-2013 , 02:37 PM
Shane -
can you advise what will happen if I move while my WU is pending? I know that WUs are supposed to be picked up within a specific geographic area, but I will be moving outside that geographic area probably before the request is processed. Will Lockmodify the cashout so that I can pick it up in another location?
06-17-2013 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by darthwager
Then they shouldn't offer it. Other USA sites are paying out. Don't defend these scumbags **** they can't even handle row half the time...
Where did I defend them? I was clarifying for the dozens of posts asking where the disappearing pending WU went.

You even stated yourself:
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Originally Posted by darthwager
But they did ask for it back or it would.still be there.... Says right in there tos you have a year. If he didint get it would still be there unless the processor took it back via cancel.
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Originally Posted by konar
Thank you for pointing out the obvious, chief.
If it is so obvious, then why are so many people confused as to what happened to the money?
06-17-2013 , 03:14 PM
requested 2/14
verified 4/2
senders info today (6/17)
Mtcn???

Any idea how long it usually takes for MTCN??
06-17-2013 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by benny622
requested 2/14
verified 4/2
senders info today (6/17)
Mtcn???

Any idea how long it usually takes for MTCN??
The last round of people who got sender info, received the mtcn# within 2 weeks.
06-17-2013 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ShadowPoker
The last round of people who got sender info, received the mtcn# within 2 weeks.
Thanks!
06-17-2013 , 04:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny622
requested 2/14
verified 4/2
senders info today (6/17)
Mtcn???

Any idea how long it usually takes for MTCN??
holy crap awesome! im on the same request day so im hoping i also have sender info. bout to check!
06-17-2013 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by boneralert
Shane -
can you advise what will happen if I move while my WU is pending? I know that WUs are supposed to be picked up within a specific geographic area, but I will be moving outside that geographic area probably before the request is processed. Will Lockmodify the cashout so that I can pick it up in another location?
Yes we can amend the address for you if you move before the MTCN comes through.
06-17-2013 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by imjustshane
Yes we can amend the address for you if you move before the MTCN comes through.
ty shane. i have just received sender info today, so hopefully it wont come to that.
06-17-2013 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ShadowPoker
The last round of people who got sender info, received the mtcn# within 2 weeks.
unfortunately not the case. I received sender info 5/24 (I think) and have yet to receive MTCN#. In the past i would say that has been pretty accurate for me though.
06-17-2013 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FT37
Well he doesn't have his money Shane. Either WU or Lock have it, where ever it is, find out, and re-issue it to the player.
You know what, I would rather he took the money he would have given to this guy (who it was too much trouble to take the time to pick up two grand from WU) and use that money to pay some of us who have been waiting since January for payment.

      
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