I think this is something that non 2+2 members need to know about such as poker fans who follow you, but I can also dilemma. It does seem though that there is overwhelming evidence of foul play or horrible customer communication/support, and even if it's the latter of the two they deserve to be outed in some way...

I think most of the lock pros would be just fine financially without the sponsorship deal.. but people who are waiting for their money and aren't wealthy already and could used the stuck money for family needs..

maybe im naïve thinking these huge names in poker that got a lock deal would do the ethical thing and say something isn't right here..

Ummm, that would be nice, and the result that we all want, but are we supposed to just ignore the fact that this whole ordeal happened at all if they correct things? They owe us explanations, answers, apologies, etc. When it's all said and done you can't just pretend you didn't have a long period of time where you weren't paying players their funds and also freezing transferred funds at your discretion.

No one is going to forget this, regardless of how it turns out. They should be more concerned with their image and the opinions of their customers than they are. And that is such an understatement.

If by some amazing fluke it turns out we were all wrong and Lock has been solvent this entire time, it's still their fault.

If that's the case, they created this situation by their terrible customer service and nonsensical policies that made it look like they were broke.

Similarly, if you wear the same clothes for 20 years, barely shower, and never shave, you can't be insulted when people assume you're homeless, even if you have 10 million dollars in the bank and live in a mansion.

As far as I can tell, things are in that grey zone just like FTP in the beginning - the site isn't giving real answers, so the players only have the evidence they can see (lack of payment, lack of answers) to use in forming their opinions.

I can certainly understand and respect your dilemma.

If you were to do anything, I would just ask that you ask people to check out one of the main threads and make sure they are aware that there are possible issues before deciding to deposit on Lock. If we can prevent any more new players from getting drawn in, I think that's a worthy goal.

If Lock somehow sorts itself out, it's always easy enough to follow up at a later date with something like: Glad to see Lock has made things right for their customers!

Always respected your willingness to stand up for the players during the FTP debacle, within your abilities.

Wait a second. So you are trying to tell us that you actually attempted and were declined transferring the 100K directly into Girah's account and then you end up losing it all just a short while later at highstakes HU games to that very same person and Lock wasn't the least suspicious that it was a chip dump.

I have to be missing something here.

It was almost the perfect crime...

You're not missing anything, Mike.

He expects us to believe that because it was so obvious, that means they knew nothing about the challenge and it was all just a huge misunderstanding.

Although that doesn't explain how they figured they'd explain an obvious chip dump to their horse, but I assume they would just tell Lock security that it was just a player transfer behind reputable high stakes regs and all those pesky rules that lesser mortals have to deal with would just be swept aside.

Why is the casino bonus issue/scandal missing from the OP?

Also not really shady, but yet more broken promises... anyone remember lockops?
...and the promised native mac software?

this, honestly, is totally besides the point. where is the freakin communication between the company and the customer? there has been zero transparency and absolutely no reassurance that ANYTHING is ok. The pros are enabling this behavior.

funny how haseeb always runs out of internets when people start asking questions.....

srsly? doubt what hes saying makes any sense...instead of just shipping 100k to their horse (which seems pretty ******ed anyway, who sends a 5/10 horse 100k???)

they created a "joke account" deposited 100k and chip dumped, but made it look like a real game to fool security, tho security will very easily be able to tell the accounts have history, since obv the "joke account" had attempted to transfer girah heaps.

Im sure most people who actually read the posts DIH made see the holes.

As soon as he backs himself into a corner with his non-sensical explanations his internet magically disappears

I think you are over-estimating Lock's internal communication, competence, and probably motives.

ummmmm, didnt he win all the $$ at 100/200 not 25/50?

Ok he didnt know... Why a horse needs a 100k transfer? Holy **** what stakes was he going to play? 20kNL?
Almost worked lol.

omgomgomg romdom!

We need to bring this thread back!

back in the good ole days when lock was worth .35-.4

It's truly ridiculous. I have no idea what they're doing. They pay to keep Shane and this forum running, which is money that could be used to pay players. Even if they don't care about the players at all and simply want to maximize the money in their pocket, closing this forum would save them money. Literally almost every thread on the front page is a complaint. It's not benefiting them in any way.

I have never run a business in my life but truly believe I, or half the people on this forum, could do a better job than Lock is currently doing.

They aren't paying for this forum anymore.

2+2 has agreed to keep it open for the good of the players, and for Shane to assist players in a support role only (no promotions).

It's been like this since 2+2 pulled Lock's banner ads, iirc.

But yes, this forum has been an absolute disgrace for over a year now. No half competent business would allow it to stand like it is. It's amazingly inept.

Not to mention Shane continues to get paid by Lock Poker.. Haven't seen him post in days?!?!

You see all these other reps for different sites and softwares posting consistently and helping out the forum every day, they even apologise if they are going to be away and can't reply for the next 24hrs!!

*sigh* lock poker can't even choose an at least minimum satisfactory forum rep.. What chance do they have of running a poker room.

Lying to people on a daily basis must be draining, especially when you know they don't believe a word you are saying to them.

We will see for how long.....

This is actually a pretty significant point that people should be focusing on.
First, the fact that Shane only answers a few questions and then disappears for days indicates how important this role is to him. And second, the fact that his superiors do not seem to care if he is here and responds to posts ITT. When you basically have an individual and company that place this low a priority on customer service, it is extremely telling. They basically don't give a phuk about the customer, their reputation, or their business. Does that sound like a company that is in it for the long haul? Or a company that is winding things down before the doors close.......