Lock: It is now more than 4 months since the scandal finally blew up. Something must have happened by now with your 'legal action'. Can you update us on which venue you have filed the action, what line you are pursuing, what has been done etc? Or is it more like 'legal inaction'?

"Legal action" is such an awesome excuse. It's going to be my default goto for any problems I get into from now on - endless amounts of silence for endless amounts of time, because "WTF DUDE! Don't be messin' with my Legal Action! STFU!"

Continued silence from Lock on this.

I hope you guys realize how absolutely guilty this makes you look. Hazy claim of pursuing legal action and then complete silence. No announcing of any charges, and still no answers about what Locks roll was in investigation Girah's account in the Lock scandal.

At this point I believe Lock is guilty of actively covering up the chip dump, and therefore contributing to the later Skype scam by not revealing a cheater when they had the chance.

I invite Lock to prove me wrong by actually being upfront about how they investigated the Girah account during the Lock challenge - what they knew, when the knew it, and what actions they took. But instead all we'll get is continued silence.

who cares, leave the guy alone

wat?

Bumping for preservation.

Perfect and concise analysis.

Rizen claimed he would quit if it was proven that Lock is a corrupt company, but here is the proof, and he hasn't quit.

And now there's the arguably worse Casino Bonus scandal, and again Rizen is making excuses and doing his best Joe Sebok impersonation.

If this thread isn't proof that Lock is a corrupt and dishonest company, I don't know what is.

(Also big LOL at the 'legal action' excuse!)

Lets not jump to conclusions guys.. Rizen probably has his hands tied behind his back.

Was there legal actions because of this? (IE - has anyone sued or had girah arrested because of this?) I know he "claimed" to have refunded the money to some of the people he scammed big time, but my concern is, these are just the some of the guys that were on HERE (2p2) that caught him. I am almost certain that there are others out there that have been scammed by him and his partner.

I hope Lock is not as corrupt as you guys make it out to be. So far, I would give them a B rating, personally.

But back to my original point, if there are some legal actions against lock or girah, then maybe Rizen cant publicly comment on the case due to legal reason's and / or lawyers recommendations.

Excuse my noobness, I have just found out about this scandal / scam yesterday and I do not know the ins and outs of it all yet. So if I said something obvious or un-relevant, I apologize ahead of time.

They don't get a B rating. They get an F rating.

This was obvious cheating from the start, and they chose to award Jose the prize until everyone expressed outrage.

Rizen's excuses, while wordy, are full of crap. He tried to make us believe that Lock just worded their press release poorly, when anyone not born yesterday could tell that the press release was specifically worded to make it look like Jose was disqualified for a minor rule violation, but still had legitimately won the contest. Why else would the phrase "legitimately won enough from his IP" have been used, especially when IP addresses were never part of the accusations of cheating? The accusations were all about chip dumping, and Lock knew that.

This was 100% a cover-up, and for Rizen to imply otherwise is insulting to our intelligence.

By why go through so much just to cover it all up? Just to keep it all hush hush so Lock Poker doesn't look bad? Idk, I guess I never read the press release and like I said, I just heard of this late last night, so I don't know all the facts.

Has Jose said anything since his post here admitting what he did and his apologies?

Jose has never been heard from again (on 2p2), although someone in one of the NVG threads claimed he was playing again (I can't recall the network) but refused to give out the screen name, which I thought was ridiculous.

Scammers deserve zero anonymity.

Bump.

Is the legal action ongoing still? Can you answer the questions now?

Bumpety Bumpety Bump Bump Bump

Is mise Tompakee

So we can safely conclude that Lock Poker's security system is either completely useless (not being able to detect obvious chipdump) or pretty much every statement they made in regards to the girah scandal was either purposely misleading or an outright lie.

After handling the whole affair so poor that it basically takes sole incompetence out of question their representative stops replying regarding this topic at all.

What online poker taught me in recent years is that a lack of information usually means that something very shady went on.

I don't understand why players are so lenient to poker rooms and still play on those sites.

I also don't understand what the point of a poker room rep is when they are allowed to ignore pressing matters for months now.

Would be nice to see if some 2plus2 rep put a bit of pressure on them regarding this issue


Regardless, I will strongly discourage anyone from putting 1 cent on this shady site

Disapointed that LockRizen is ignoring this issue now.

10 months have gone by. Update please Lock? Rizen?

I think we won't be hearing from Lock again, I hope that isn't the case...

But all signs point to fail.

In retrospect, this post is pretty high on the list of posts I wish I'd never made on 2+2.

Lock? Rizen? Shane? ...... anyone from Lock who cares about this?

.... more than a year now.

Shane (since Rizen seems to have disappeared):
What is the status of the legal action relating to the cheating?
Must be over by now?
Is Lock going back on the promise to tell us what happened?
Can you answer any of the questions in the OP or are you going the cover-up route?

Bump, yo

Quotes from September 2011 onwards ..
...... can we have that update now? Its been 18 months since the original statement.

What better person to lecture us about cheating on poker websites

There was never any legitimate legal matter in my opinion.

Girah made Lock a massive amount of money (his blog hits were huge given the huge NVG thread read by 100s of thousands of people based on lies that promote his blog throughout the thread).

When the scandal hit, it was embarrassing to Lock and it makes a lot of sense that an easy way to make it go away as quickly as possible was to use a cover of suing him and that you can't talk about details due to lawsuit.

But no matter how you look at it, Lock received a massive amount of referrals from Girah's popularity, which was based purely on lies.

Always curious how Girah got 100k onto Lock too without upper management knowing. I believe you had to deposit through the casino at this time (AKA Lock's cashier). How nobody saw a 100k deposit that dumped to the leader of the promotion is beyond my understanding too.

Now THAT's actually funny!!