Intertops, Bovada, and now Carbon have big sportsbooks attached to them.

They likely make the majority of revenue from those, therefore leaving them with piles of cash, and much bigger margins.

What about those vip players on lock? Do they get preferred treatment for cashing out?


Also, can someone sign up on lock or carbon if they never had an account?

lol, what? Sportsbooks don't make nearly as much money as poker. Poker sites should be printing cash. Sportsbooks really on a 10% hold, but they're still gambling. There is no gamble in running a poker site.

you cant be serious. go away troll

Why don't you learn a thing or two before making a complete fool of yourself.

If poker rooms could deal out 100 hands an hour like online, they would have the biggest real estate in the casino. That being said, poker rooms are still bigger than most sportsbooks - there's a reason for that. Sportsbooks rake in money? You really think that? Sportsbooks are gambling you buffoon. Whether a player wins or losses has no affect on you when owning a poker room. Pokerstars is guaranteed 10% hold on all their tournaments +whatever rake they bring in from cash games. When people win gambling sports, you lose as a sportsbooks.

Try again.. you haven't made yourself look bad enough yet.

Day 89 still no check!

Requested 11/12

Processed 12/27

Received ????

Literally going to be shocked if anything ever actually shows up. Crazy thing is I had another cash out on January 22nd.

Sportsbooks fold up, steal players money and go broke time and time again. 100's of come and gone, possibly 1000's. Try again blah blah.

I still haven't been paid by lock.

You are vastly overstating the rake a poker table pulls in if you think a poker room at 100 hands an hour would have the most real estate in a casino (implying more so than slots). 9 person poker table at 100 hands/hr... even with some crap rake cap of $5.. even if it hits the cap all 100 hands, is still only $500/hr. Slot machines crush that.. as do sports books.

Oh yeah definately, VERY sure sportsbooks and slot machines crush offline poker. Pretty sure online poker beat both of those aswell, though.

These posts about checks are annoying. Do your research and stop complaining. It has been taking 3-4 months to get checks for a long time now. Expect to wait between 90-120 days. You should not be shocked. You should feel foolish for not researching ahead of time and preparing yourself.

Which is what I said, but he doesn't get it. I never said anything about slots, I was strictly talking about sportsbooks in relativity to poker rooms. Online pokerrooms are much more profitable with much less risk than sportsbooks. You guys are just being ignorant, but carry on.

lol, what a joke these sites have become. Yeah people should stop complaining that sites can't pay out in a timely fashion. Why would these sites change their ways if everyone acted like you do.

We should just accept the horrendous customer service, not sure what we are thinking.

Requested: 12/05/12
Verified: 1/09/13
Received: someday hopefully :-/

Day 69

Has contacting support helped anyone?

No. I've contacted multiple times since my October '12 check request, same canned response mixed w/ a few outright lies.

Recently, I've "cashed out" the rest of my balance just to keep myself from playing on such a miserably run site. Not confident that I'll receive any of my $$ tbh.

Made a small deposit on Bovada but bummed to not be able to track my hands and play. Online poker in the US is so tilting.

He is applying online poker as if it were live poker dealing 100 hands an hour. Sports books still beat that for sure. Reading comprehension ftw

Which is easier, being a winning sportsbettor or a winning poker player?
OK, now who has the bigger edge?
(hint: its poker player for both)

Net depositing fish keep both books and poker going.
OK, now when a fish dumps $500 at poker in 5 mins, who gets that money? How about if he does it at a sportsbook?

So shady overseas sportsbooks shut down is your evidence that they aren't profitable? Yea, because we don't know any poker rooms that have closed and stolen money

Acting like I do? I'm being realistic. Coming on these threads and saying the same things over and over again will do nothing. The only action you can take that will send Lock a message is by deciding not to play on there anymore.

Has anyone heard from Shane? Im having trouble getting in touch with him.

What don't you understand? It doesn't matter if you win or lose playing cards, the site still makes money. Sportsbooks rely on keeping their numbers sharp to avoid getting hit by sharp bettors and squares don't have unlimited rolls so when they bust out you stop making that money. Poker sites make money regardless of results.

I come from writing for a sports capping site, and my focus is betting sports and playing the market - taking advantage of slow moving books. Keep trying to tell me which service makes more money though. You guys are so clueless it's painful to listen to.

There is no risk in owning and operating a poker site. There is a ton of risk in owning and operating a sportsbook. The hold at a sportsbook, and sheer volume wagered, isn't enough to make what poker sites make. The ignorance of this place is unbelievable.

Fish don't keep poker sites going everyone does. What do you not get? Fish and winners pay the same fee to enter a tournament. Fish and winners pay the same rake on hands. Winners end up paying the site out more actually so in poker it makes no difference.

Anyone that thinks that sportsbooks are some money printing enterprises doesn't understand a thing about sportsbooks and should just shut up. Poker will be legalized in this country before online sportsbooks because poker will make the country more money

Take your pissy attitude here if you want to argue:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/40/sports-betting/

you will fit in amazing there

My post provides information for others to research. Additionally, why the false promises and timelines from Lock if this is the case? Why not just say it's going to take between 90-120 days.

I can assure you they have given me at least 3 self imposed deadlines and they have yet to hit one of them.

Day 90, no check!

BTW if you're going to consistently miss deadlines it should not be my responsibility to inquire about failed deliveries. Good customer service would take a proactive approach and e-mail me the status of the shipment. I've worked in logistics and customer service and this is how it should be done.

It's like winning a bet vs a friend. I shouldn't have to pester to collect. A person that pays takes the proactive approach and does it on their own.

Cleared.