im shocked that they even know about merge at all if they truly are fish.

and FWIW I know of at least 3-4 players who weren;t playing online who wanted to deposit for this tournament series. It's to bad woulda brought in some new fishies.

Because they are slow. Last year, they had ads for Ronin for several months after the thing had been cancelled. It's not uncommon on Lock although they do appear to be a bit better than they were awhile ago. If they get to it this week and get the ad off of there I will be impressed. Lower your standards.

Lock ops ad is already removed and it is back to the Ducati. Has been for hours.

I have to say totally ridicuous call from merge.

If you aren't going to allow say that from the start so you don't end up like this.

It is a shame, it was is a promo that brings depositing players.

Most of you are looking at this the wrong way.

This isn't Merge's fault, except for approving it in the first place.

Otherwise, Merge had a very good reason to cancel it.

It had nothing to do with other skins complaining.

It had to do with the potential overlays, and the associated risk that Merge was going to have to take as a result.

Just another chapter to add to the thick book of failure being written daily by Lock Poker.

If that was the problem, then it never should of gone ahead. Lock appears willing to take the risk and has said they have the advertising budget to cover any overlays (of course we don't know how true this is).

The way merge has handled this is very poor and forced the skin to say why.

Based on what you just said, it was merge's fault. Sounds to me like Lock pitched an idea, Merge liked it, and then merge canceled it.

How is lock at fault?

Merge was stupid to approve this in the first place. I will give you that. No idea what they were thinking when they did.

However, the way the skins and Merge compensate each other would have left Merge on the hook for the overlay until Lock came up with the money.

Lock can say that it was in their marketing budget, but Merge had no way of knowing or verifying this. If it turned out that the overlay exceeded Lock's budget, it would have been Merge's loss.

That's why it was canceled.

I believe Merge crunched some numbers and found that the potential overlay was too large for their taste.

Lock is at fault for setting stupid guarantees that put both themselves and Merge at risk.

Lock is also at fault for having a terrible track record thus far (see Girah scandal + Casino Bonus scandal) and probably giving Merge jitters in this situation as a result.

Merge is at fault for approving this ******ed idea in the first place and then having to cancel it when they realized how stupid they were.

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Just for clarification the numbers were completely fine and underneath our initial proposal which was originally approved. The published guaranteed amount was our 'safe' number.

rofl. you dont think lock reps did a ****load or research before potentially setting themselves up for a huge loss?

Even if they did take a monster hit, like lets say 25% overlay in the ME; do you have any idea how much money these sites make? Its a drop in the ocean.

pretty goddamn scummy for lock to have the rug pulled from underneath them; but id like to know why lock are not pursuing legal action. Merge is turning into a replica of ipoker. You can bet that when poker finally comes back to legalisation and the market forces competition to become tougher, sites that have been less than transparent will struggle.

This does not mean i think lock is to blame, i think they are by far the best skin on merge, but merge has to answer some of these questions and stop using this camouflage to hide their true intentions.

I think their lawyers are busy with the Girah case.

Wtf merge. I was really looking forward to this,....,..

The whole problem is that this was APPROVED for whatever reason by merge. Then after lock poker gets it setup, running sattys and new player sign ups deposits ect. Merge comes back in and simply revokes it and cancels it. Merge should have tried to make this work somehow.. If they were scared about overlays simply make lock adjust the guarantees to there liking. If other skins didn't like it and feel like it violated merges rules, simply change the name and open it up network wide.

But to take the action they did and simply just cancel it just makes everyone look bad.

Again I can't express how much I appreciate the transparency and honesty from Lock on this issue. Nice a representative saying the true facts behind this situation rather then us all panicking about what could be.

You obviously have brain power issues. Lock was going to support 100% of the overlay. Merge wasn't doing anything but getting money for the players that were playing already. I think it's been discussed about how skins work in the Feltstars tickets thread.

Now the offended tickets people that would have had to actually pay this time around to play are saying "oh in fact Merge pays for the overlay not the skin".

I am just as upset as anyone else about this series being cancelled. And I understand all the frustration, but it's over guys. Time to move on. Bickering isn't going to change anything.

This. The guys complaining about Lock being forthcoming here are the same guys who would be absolutely slamming lock for the many possible reasons that this series was cancelled except for the real reason.

And also, Sea Salt had very little credibility with anyone here already as he clearly has an ulterior motive, but his utterly ridiculous allegations ITT really hammer that final nail into his metaphorical coffin within this forum.

Also, casino bonus wasn't a scandal...lol..it was a **** up on locks part and everyone knows it, but it was not a scandal. Grasping at straws pretty hard ITT.

I was about to deposit and start playing on Lock because of Lockops. Now I don't think that is going to happen. Pretty ridiculous this series got canceled...

You obviously have reading comprehension issues.

First off, I wasn't accusing Lock of being unable to afford the overlay. I was saying that it was enough money to where Merge got scared that they wouldn't be able to. Whether Lock could actually afford the worst-case overlay scenario is immaterial, since Merge has to take the hit first.

You say that Lock was going to support the overlay, but how can you claim this with any certainty? How can Merge be sure that Lock was going to have that much cash on hand to support it?

(If you're going to respond with, "Lock must be making a ton of money on rake, so of course they have plenty to support the overlay", then I have a three word answer for you: Full Tilt Poker.)

Was Merge idiotic to approve this tournament series and then yank it away? Definitely.

However, can you really blame Merge for not trusting Lock after everything that's happened in the past year?

Oh, and once again, I have zero ulterior motive. I was not personally cheated by Lock, I don't own any piece of any other skin, and I don't run any affiliate programs. I also don't have any close friends or family in the affiliate or Merge skin business. Keep accusing me of bias every time I tell you the truth that you don't want to hear.

This is just wrong, the math was sound and we had the recent data from Maximus to back it up.

I can also absolutely confirm that this theory was in no way mentioned or implied by Merge in any of our conversations on this matter.

Am I upset? Yes.

But I feel that most of these posters in this thread have had problems with lock in the past and are using this as an excuse just to attack them. Lock can't win in this situation. Tell us nothing, tell us it is locks fault, tell us it is merges fault. You all would attack them anyway that this would of happened.

On another note. Just get a half million guaranteed tournament going. Only thing I was REALLY looking forward to.

While lock has made a lot of mistakes, this isn't one of them.

Lock tried to do something positive and merge screwed them over end of story. How anyone can blame lock for this is beyond me. Blame them for trying to put together the best promo they can? Isn't that what we want of sites?