Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Lock can fail and Revoulution gaming can still be ok right? Lock can fail and Revoulution gaming can still be ok right?

12-05-2012 , 08:30 PM
This is just a simple question. If Lock fails (not saying they are by any means) the revolution network will still be ok right?

Lock makes it seems like they are running the show on the network, but that isn't the case because other skins on revolution are paying out pretty quickly.

I'm not clear on the relationship with LOCK and the network. It seems like they joined the Cake network and then changed the name to the revolution network. And if LOCK were to fail, the rest of the skins would be ok.
12-05-2012 , 08:32 PM
note: im not saying they are failing and don't think they are. But given the absense of lock reps and the WU option gone people waiting 5x the promised length for cashouts etc. this is something I wanna know. And whatever is going on, none of us will ever know the truth.
12-05-2012 , 10:03 PM
close
12-05-2012 , 10:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WVUskinsfan
This is just a simple question. If Lock fails (not saying they are by any means) the revolution network will still be ok right?

Lock makes it seems like they are running the show on the network, but that isn't the case because other skins on revolution are paying out pretty quickly.

I'm not clear on the relationship with LOCK and the network. It seems like they joined the Cake network and then changed the name to the revolution network. And if LOCK were to fail, the rest of the skins would be ok.
Lock makes it seems like they are running the show because they are. They own the network. They left merge so they could buy the cake network, so I would have to think if lock fails the network will fail unless they sell.
12-05-2012 , 10:33 PM
Has anyone been in contact with Shane the last couple of days?
12-05-2012 , 10:56 PM
Lock owns a majority stake in the Revolution Network which they "purchased" from Cake and/or the large affiliate companie(s) that have bailed Cake out over the last few years. Should they fail, I'd think it would shut the network down until someone could pick up the pieces, pay the debts, etc.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Citizenwid
Lock makes it seems like they are running the show because they are. They own the network. They left merge so they could buy the cake network, so I would have to think if lock fails the network will fail unless they sell.
*cough*with player funds*cough*


*Personal opinion but do some research




--
Kahn
12-06-2012 , 02:20 AM
No site is safe in this environment. Lock might be more in danger of going under than other but who really knows. What's safe today could be gone in one fatal swoop. Look at Full Tilt. Anybody that bashes one US facing site while praises others as safe is a fool or has a reason to lie to you(ie they are an affiliate).
12-06-2012 , 06:59 AM
The important question shouldn't be so much, "is one site more likely to go under than another", it should be, "will a site have player funds set aside if the site does go under"?

As I see it, the quality of customer service is the canary in a coal mine as far as poker sites go. FullTilt Poker had terrible customer service; and we know now that they weren't financially stable. Bad customer service, I feel, often is the result of a site cutting cost out of necessity.
12-06-2012 , 09:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by okcthunderfan
Has anyone been in contact with Shane the last couple of days?
Sorry for the absence I was actually on the road driving up to meet with the cashier manager and dev team and didnt have the reliable internet I hoped to find on the road. Am back now and will hopefully have some more answers on things.


Quote:
Originally Posted by SantaCruz
The important question shouldn't be so much, "is one site more likely to go under than another", it should be, "will a site have player funds set aside if the site does go under"?

As I see it, the quality of customer service is the canary in a coal mine as far as poker sites go. FullTilt Poker had terrible customer service; and we know now that they weren't financially stable. Bad customer service, I feel, often is the result of a site cutting cost out of necessity.
The real problem with the customer support is the perceived lack of of more accurate information on processing. With live chat in place and the expanded support team the general support has improved tenfold, the remaining problem is processing and information on processing.

Almost every time I have a detailed conversation with a player the conversation eventually gets to "but surely you have more information that you just arent sharing." There is a belief that we know more that we arent letting on but the truth is when dealing with third party processors we dont always have the detailed information that players want. We pass on what we have but we are always passing on all available information.


Quote:
Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Lock owns a majority stake in the Revolution Network which they "purchased" from Cake and/or the large affiliate companie(s) that have bailed Cake out over the last few years. Should they fail, I'd think it would shut the network down until someone could pick up the pieces, pay the debts, etc.





*cough*with player funds*cough*


*Personal opinion but do some research




--
Kahn
You should practice what you preach and do some research on what you post. As usual everyone can ignore Kahn's post.
12-06-2012 , 09:48 AM
Hey Shane, Can you look into my check withdrawl for me please. I emailed and sent a pm on the situation a while back. Going on 7 weeks now I have been waiting for my check. Appreciate it.
12-06-2012 , 11:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Walkman Invader
Hey Shane, Can you look into my check withdrawl for me please. I emailed and sent a pm on the situation a while back. Going on 7 weeks now I have been waiting for my check. Appreciate it.
Just replied to your email.
12-06-2012 , 12:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by imjustshane
You should practice what you preach and do some research on what you post. As usual everyone can ignore Kahn's post.
Are player funds segregated?
12-06-2012 , 06:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Lock owns a majority stake in the Revolution Network which they "purchased" from Cake and/or the large affiliate companie(s) that have bailed Cake out over the last few years. Should they fail, I'd think it would shut the network down until someone could pick up the pieces, pay the debts, etc.





*cough*with player funds*cough*


*Personal opinion but do some research




--
Kahn

Kahn I think your totally out of line with this post. It would be one thing to post this and give us some facts but to just say that is total BS, and just looks like you are trying to scare people away from playing on the network. For people that don't know Kahn is someway connected to the merge network. I'm not sure if he's paid by them but he is for sure connected to someone at the top, If you look at the carbon thread or any merge thread he is always answering questions that only someone connected to the top would know the answer to. So if you think about it he probably has an invested intrust in them failing. Kahn you always seemed helpful when I would look for some answers about the merge network, but lost a lot of respect for you after seeing this post.
12-07-2012 , 05:34 AM
Yep kahn is an affiliate for Merge, a high raking player on Merge, and probably indeed connected even more than that. As you can see he's definately willing to go out of his way to bash Lock without real proof, just because he knows the less players play on Lock, the more ultimately play on Merge one way or another.
12-07-2012 , 06:48 AM
It really does amuse me that Kahn tries to act knowledgeable on certain things that he clearly isn't. This is a perfect example. It's also funny how he has no answers for all the BS Carbon has going on and tries to act as if the situation over there is all well.

Lock didn't buy a network with players funds and they aren't going under.

      
m