This is like a lockpoker improvement thread, but rather than software improvement, how about gaming conditions improvement like bonuses, rakeback, VIP points, and promotions?

My Ideas

1. Do away with 200% deposit bonuses and make them 50% deposit bonuses.
2. Turn rakeback into bonuses that have to be earned. Like for every $5 in rakeback you earn, you have to earn 75 VIP points to collect.
3. Players can use VIP points as a %% for MTT entry fees so like a $100 + $10 tournament would be $100 + 1000 VIP points. Or a $5 + .50 tournament could be 500 VIP + .50
4. Clear bonuses as a %% of the stakes you're playing, play $1-$2 NL and earn $5 per 75 VIP points, while playing .10-.20 you earn .50 per 10 VIP points. Meaning scale bonuses work off rate to the stakes your playing.
5. More PLO, less PLO/8 tournaments. The GTG tournaments are great imo
6. Never never add Jackpots. Instead run hand promo's like any royal and you win 100BB

7. Allow select and certified players to auction $$ off to other players and promote more player to player transfers and cashouts.

Like I'm buying lockpoker $$ for 95% for the first $500, then 99% for $501-$1000 max, or I'm selling $500 for $510. Let the player to player assume the responisiblity for fund transfers outside of lock and let them do lock to lock account transfers.

Above is an example .. not an offer btw. I am neither buying nor selling money on lockpoker.

This becomes a distributed cashier system and helps in cashouts and buy-ins.

Just some ideas. I would like to see them succeed so that the cashout problems stop.

I'm not claiming I'm the originator of Rush Poker, but I sent both full tilt and Poker starts letters describing such a system some 18 months prior to full tilts implementation and offered my services to develop it, but never heard back, so I think I have some good Ideas.

If by "Mr. Lockpoker" do you mean Jennifer Larson?

dont be fooled by the locks that shes got

shes just shes just jenny from the block

Oh, how American of me. I wonder if she's doable.

Huh?

So a player would first have to generate rake to get rakeback, but then generate more rake to actually get the rake back? What about the rakeback on the rake made to get the rake back? Does that then need more rake piggy-backed on the rake that the rakeback needed backing for?

It's conceptual. The idea is there, the details would be worked out to avoid that.

The point is, don't have these pie in the sky unsustainable promotions. The're impeding the cash flow and making it difficult for players to cash out and players should be concerned about this, as it puts their bankrolls in jeopardy.

It's a choice between great rakeback, great VP earn rate and benefits, great overlays on the tournies ... too bad you can't ever cash out.

Cue' Hotel California ......

#3can't you just exchange pts for cash already?

If I was Ms. Lockpoker, I'd most certainly seek out d3 fact0, and approach him with a lucrative consulting gig offer...

facepalm as !

lol

Pay players 1-3 days via WU

Check, 1 week.

Add customer service people/

Make paying players in a timely fashion 10000%

More plo, less plo/8 seems a little racist op.

**CK another Democrat.

If my name were Mr. Lockpoker I would seriously consider changing it because that's a really weird name. Although my actual last name is pretty close on the weirdness scale I suppose.

OP's ideas are confusing to me and there are a couple I either don't understand or don't see the point. I think implementing all of those ideas would be mostly pointless.

Obviously the 200% reload stuff isn't going to last forever anyway. So recommending that change is silly....because it is going to happen no matter what.

[ ] has a clue about the actual demand for each of these games

I do enjoy the fact that the 2+2 community is so diverse that we end up with two opposing threads running at the same time. One thread telling us to give away more money through promotions and another telling us to scale them back.

As has been stated previously, we are always reviewing our promotions and while we have been very agressive in this period we will slowly work towards a system that while still rewarding loyal players heavily will be a sustainable model.

I want to see them scaled back and reasonable. THere are better ways to build client base other than fantastic rakeback VIP and deposit bonus schemes.

In retail they call it training your customers to only come to your store when you've put out coupons or are having sales.

Seriously, I want to be able to cash-out eventually and in a reasonable time frame. You're over promoting and under budgeted and one has to do with the other.

The two are in no way related. Players oversimplify the depositing and withdrawing process because we are used to very simple and streamlined online processing. Of course most industries dont have to deal with UEIGA and all the complications this brings.

In a perfect world we would have one bank that processed all our transactions allowing for immediate cashouts and withdrawals, instead we have to offer several options for different markets with all our transactions passing through a layer of processers that can add delays.

Well you miss the purpose of the post entirely. The points given where just pie in the sky off the cuff ideas just so's I wasn't asking others to give ideas without giving my own.

Here, these will be plain and simple

1. Why give rakeback? Why not just reduce rake? Did you ever consider the intangible cost of rakeback? It requires record keeping, managing, support. Those aren't free.

Do away with rakeback, reduce rake or skim the rake for VP promotions, tournament guarantees or non-jackpot related hand promos.

2. Come up with a cash out recovery plan. Maybe even have a total open financial disclosure about Cash balance vs Players banks. If you don't want to print such stuff publicly, have it certified as sustainable by some gaming commission.

3. Players money should never ever be hypothicated. I.E used to fund promotions, pay the daily burn, or otherwise invested. Don't co-mingle funds.

4. Distributed cashiering. Develop relationships with some of your key players, allow them to accept deposits for and give payouts to players from their own account via account to account xfers. Player wants to cash out some, he xfers to an agent that he knows hangs out at the local card club, when verified he runs to the agent and gets the cash. Wants to deposit? Give the cash to the agent and the agent xfer's it into his account. You could have thousands of these agents spread across the U.S, you cut whatever commission deals you want with them.

Develop a client/server android app to facilitate this. It would be the greatest thing in poker if I knew I could drive to closest casino and hit the poker room and cashout there from a player/agent.

Things like that. This post was meant to be a sandbox for others to design their own online poker room.

So how can sites like Stars, Betfair, Boyle, Party all process ewallet withdrawals in less than 24hrs?

By not allowing Americans to play.

roll out new software and improve the MTT schedule with better structures would be a start.

The structures are being looked at as we speak, there is a strong push to get them updates ASAP.

ty for some kind of comment. seems us MTT grinders aren't having our voices heard as loud as everyone else. the tournament improvement thread is largely ignored it seems.

besides #6 all of that sounds horrible