Any reg that wins without RB...I think should be assured they will be in top group..I don't care if we keep hearing "all winning players will not be in top level"...What are they considering winning?...I guy up $16 after 80 hands..Lock is a sneaky bunch

All right..i apologize for the insult..but if there was changes to sit n gos that effected you, I would not feel it's my place to make those kind of comments..you should understand the panic...some of us are looking at a pay cut it seems..not that i ever get paid...i guess i just get off these days seeing my PTR stats go up

Can you just read what i say, though? I mean, it's just so baffling how people interpret what i say in such odd ways all the time. All i'm basically saying is:

It's obvious from the language in the FAQ that they'll never tell us what group we're in and never tell us how it's calculated.

They'll shift us around however they have to so that no one can win enough to cash out.

Cashout problems solved!

There's your new March 1 cashout solution, lol.

You're basically right: this is definately a move to both make more money (a perfect world for a poker site is have everyone be break-even to rake it all away) in the long run and reduce cashouts overall.

Honestly..if these changes help them get more deposits..so I can start getting money off..I'm for them...But lock knew they had financial issues before they went and signed the grinder..So im not holding my breath on that either

haha, yeah. i'm sure that they're withholding all details because its secretly awesome and they just want it to be a nice surprise.

i don't need to see it to know that its bull**** for different players to play by different rules and for players to not get to know how those rules work or which rules they're playing by.

F this, I'm done. I am literally without speech. Withdrawing every red cent from all accounts today.

The thing that kills me about them doing this is, Lock has so many other issues that they could have spent the time and money working on software freezing up all the time ,payout issues etc. Get your prioritys straightened out ffs the managment of this company is horrid.

At my home games i play in there are a few guys that win most weeks, there are some that lose everytime they play thats just life. I am a rec losing player and i still think this idea is absurd. Make the site better do things that will atract new players. But dont take a game thats played by millions and try to micro manage us and tell us who we can and can not play.

why not work harder and get people paid out in a week or 2 instead of wasting time and energy on fairplay garbage ? this is the worst idea ive ever heard , people should be allowed to have the option to play where and with who they want. cheezeburger stakes exist for a reason , we dont need fairply tech. , what a joke

I'm not going to get into a debate with someone who acts like an entitled 12 year old. Since you lack reading comprehension, please re-read the thread and you'll see he pointed out things that are about as truthful as it's going to get from a representative of a site who doesn't know 100% of what is going on with this situation. He's being fed information and he has to go with it.

I think Lock and the Network are so mismanaged it's not even funny, but you have to put the blame where it should land, and not all on a scapegoat forum representative who appears to be doing what he can with this Fair Play bs in a no win situation from his end.

As far as tampering with your life goes, no one is forcing you to play on Lock. No one is forcing you to derive your income from Poker. You live in the U.S. so get off your crybaby ass and if you don't like it, do something about it. I played full-time for years and am now transitioning into something else. Some pro's will continue to grind the other available sites and they'll manage.

Acting the way you have isn't going to do anything other than piss people off and it's not going to change a damn thing other than rile yourself up and not get you any farther along in your life than you currently are today. When you grow up and hit puberty you'll hopefully realize there is a right way and a wrong way to get your point across and try to be heard. For now though, go take your nap and make sure your mother changes your diaper so you don't get a rash.

BOYCOTT.

Some type of organized sit-out or boycott could definitely make a difference. It'd take a lot of organization and efforts though. There's been a few threads that started up about it but there wasn't a lot of momentum for whatever reason. Could definitely be some now though.

Better to rush this out while there is still a large majority of the player field who have no idea about such a change.

As more and more learn about this, the regular, intelligent players are going to be making a mass exodus ( one would assume ) withdrawing their funds and heading for a COMPETENT competitor.

Best of luck to you :P

EDIT: I will say this, it was nice of you to post this on 2p2 though so the people who play there can decide to leave earlier if they so chose.

My last game on Lock Poker was on December 24th, 2012. There was way more then enough reason to stop playing there when i did. I would of actually stopped playing there months earlier if they hadn't snatched a bunch of tournament tickets out of my account and made me jump thru hoops for months to get my own money back.

Lock Poker is a joke of a company and continuing to support businesses like these is only supporting the destruction of online poker.

Can't blame you in the slightest. Everyone is in a different boat in their reliance with Lock. I do understand that, regardless of the reasons, players like Kevin rely on the income from Lock as a primary source of income and that this is royally screwing them (beyond the level they already were getting screwed). It's all pretty obvious, evidenced by your leaving last year.

I'm in no way trying to defend Lock, I just think there were ways of petitioning these changes with a better result than the status quo of just being enraged. Specifically, highly organized boycott or sit-outs or permanently leaving. A lot of people can't just quit Lock and this is the next best thing to having the ability to permanently leave.

There's always a chance that Lock owners are in a Brewster's Millions scenario.

TL;DR and addressed just to LiarsDice

K, lets do a rewind. I said one thing that is 100% fact and one thing that's minimally inflammatory to Shane in my first post itt.

to which you replied

Shane is on the record, as quoted above, of being in favor of this entire **** storm. He's only expressed frustrations that the way they're going about implementing it isn't to his approval. And to believe he's voiced his frustrations to the network is naive. This guy lies to us. Every. Single. Day... What makes you think he's telling the truth about anything here?

If anybody over reacted in the first place it was you. Sure my second post is much more antagonistic but that's just because I think you're being deliberately obtuse. This doesn't even affect you and you're here arguing and defending the guy who, on a daily basis, flat out misrepresents half truths and bold face lies. Every day. All the time. . .

If segregation was just to protect new players so that they can get some experience, wouldn't it make more sense to simply set some .02/.04 tables aside for new players and allow them to play at those until a certain amount of time has gone by or until they've won a certain amount of money rather than to go through all of this?

Precisely. That's why it's 100% obvious that Lock is insolvent. I hope Intertops moves to a new network.

Definitely TL;DR sir...

Btw, if this is what it took for you to say "that's it" and throw in the cards you'll receive next to zero sympathy from anyone outside of this forum. Just read Gunth0807's first post. You've stuck it out this long and play through three-month withdraw times and .60 vig offerings and withered traffic, so my money is on you still riding it out for at least a bit longer.

As for it not effecting me because I am a SNG player made me laugh out loud, literally. Should I start playing cash games to appease you so that I somehow have validity in what I was trying to tell you so that I am on the right side of the "pissed off bad guys"?

I haven't attacked anyone voicing displeasure about Lock, they SHOULD voice their displeasure. Not everyone feels the need to tell people to **** off though like you do when they vent and act like some monkey who eats its own **** in the zoo when they're peeved off. Try being a keyboard warrior in public and see how long you go without getting cracked in the jaw though. I hope you have a good Dental plan. I singled you out specifically for your lack character as an individual, not because you don't have justifications for disapproving of Lock and what they've done to you. Can you see the difference?

Perhaps you need to read ALL of my posts, because I don't condone anything that Lock or Shane has done (you obviously missed my first response to you pointing out that imo Shane patronizes people and misses the point of a lot of questions asked of him).

So much fail in your post but I digress, you win, and I am going to let the thread move on as this is futile and completely derailing the purpose of it.

Isn't Party already doing something like this? Party's not broke. I don't think Lock is rolling in cash but them doing this doesn't correlate with being broke imo.

I thought for sure that the haste with which this was implemented was a sure sign of Lock being on the ropes, but I noticed earlier that a few people got max checks today.

So, the money is flowing still, just very slowly.

Hopefully they can pull it back together without getting too extreme with 'fair play' segregation.

i'd rather that they just crash and burn so that other companies are more likely to think twice about pulling scumbag cash grabs like this on their customers.

Yeah they seem to pay out early in a week such as a Monday or Tuesday.