Hey guys, firstly we had learnt from the feedback from segregation and had an education plan in place to properly inform players about this impending change before it happened but unfortunately another brand has leaked this information before the details could be finalised.

The network had sent out the basic details and told us to start planning our communication on this for our players which was supposed to go out in a weeks time. Since another brand went early with it, causing a little chaos we will try to rectify this ASAP by firstly getting the right basic info up here to discuss and then by pushing ahead with the planned player education before the launch of this feature so everyone knows exactly what to expect.

I just wanted to clear some things up about the Lobby catalogue feature. (The actual name for this feature will be Fair Play technology.)

Lock Poker fully supports this move by the network and will be removing the segregation when its put in place. We feel this new feature will make huge strides to improve the ecology of the network and want to return our players to the network player pool to give this feature the best chance to be a big success.

There is a plan in place to run an educational information blitz to properly explain this to all players so that players understand in detail how it will work and how they will be effected. As a room Lock plans to release this information through all channels over the next week or two, we want to make sure everything is clear and well prepared before we put it out so players can easily understand and to avoid unnecessary distress.

I want to highlight now to dispel an incorrect assumption is that this will just separate the fish recreational players from the professional players, this is not true. This plan still allows the overlapping of player types to ensure the liquidity remains strong at all levels and the natural flow of funds through the poker ecology still occurs.

I will continue this thread as a very basic information thread and when we have more details will start a new thread with a more detailed explanation of how it will work.

What is the timeframe for full release of Fair Play? It sounds like people speculating this coming week would be untrue, correct?

Not true, our plan was to start the information blitz on it in next week and the feature would probably be the week after that.

We wanted to spend this week getting the message right, then following that get the message out and clear to our players.

lol he called them fish

Doesn't lock own revolution? This means you guys are making these decisions.


Shane, you'll be receiving a lot of negative feedback.

This is a horrible idea for serious players. Revolution does not have the player pool to support this especially at the higher limits. Games are built around fish even at NL 100 and NL 200. They'll run with just regs but if there's no chance a fish is joining these games nobody is ever going to start tables.

Why cater to the grinders with high rakeback/rewards then completely alienate them with this? Makes no sense especially when you could just cut rewards 10-15% and receive minimal backlash.

shane will we be forced to say please thank you good luck and have a nice day throughout games while using this fair play technology? do you have the proper blitz in store for us with regards to this? im guessing you'll let us know soon?

Just let us know the release date so we all know when to never play another hand on your POS network ever again...

I don't see any way that traffic isn't drastically reduced by the end of the month.

Is that the goal?

Am I a Fish?
If so then wohoo

The network is still managed completely independently, while we have a stronger say than we did on our previous network we still have to allow the network to be ran with the best interests of the network in mind.

Your second part of your question will be answered below as someone asked a similar point.

Honestly when I had this explained to me this morning I was impressed, it seemed like a far better implementation than what I understand from the recent PS release and I felt with the right education players would understand it properly and would see how it will allow some protection for the softest traffic while still maintaining liquidity.

We new that the only way to get this change in place was by educating players on how it will work and its real effect. The early leak has thrown a spanner in the works and there are lots of emails and phone calls going on now as we try and work our way forward from here and better inform everyone.

A lot of the fear of this is based on the incorrect assumption that this means the player pool will be split into 2 classes and that both classes will be completely separated from each other.

This is not the case, its actually a 3 class structure with the middle class being by far the largest. More details explaining this will come out as we finish the PR for it.

Shane- could you please give the basic details of what this will entail? You say there will still be an overlapping of professionals and fish so that seems to negate the rumors that it is segregating players by their winrates. If this is true then what do the new changes actually do?

Why even start a thread about it if youre not going to tell us how it works?

Because another skin leaked some incorrect information.

We wanted to just correct that information quickly before we worked on getting the PR right. We had planned on having a few days to do this behind the scenes but the leak has meant we have to try to move that forward while at the same time just ensuring the wrong information isnt circulated.

Will the formula used to categorize players be made public or will it be kept secret?

+1

When someone else leaked it you should have made one statement that it was being worked on and we would receive a statement with all of the information on it on X day. Then actually release a statement on X day with all of the information. Now speculation will run rampant and Lock will give the same dodging song and dance for a few days while everyone gets more and more irritated with the trashfire they pass off as customer support.

Meh this doesn't really fly. You know that no matter the content of Shane's comments or his level of disclosure, there would be speculation, accusations, anger, threats to "never play on Lock again", etc. for the next few days. This is one time where I think Shane actually did kind of get put in a tricky spot and is making a reasonable effort to make some not-too-horrible lemonade out of it.

Well I don't know why I came here tonight,
I got the feeling that something ain't right,
I'm so scared in case I fall off my chair,
And I'm wondering how I'll get down the stairs,
Clowns to the left of me,
Jokers to the right, here I am,
Stuck in the MIDDLE with you.

Yes I'm stuck in the MIDDLE with you,
And I'm wondering what it is I should do,
It's so hard to keep this smile from my face,
Losing control, yeah, I'm all over the place,
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the MIDDLE with you.

Well you started out with nothing,
And you're proud that you're a self made man,
And your friends, they all come crawlin,
Slap you on the back and say,
Please.... Please.....

Trying to make some sense of it all,
But I can see that it makes no sense at all,
Is it cool to go to sleep on the floor,
'Cause I don't think that I can take anymore
Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the MIDDLE with you.

I don't really understand the point of basically dividing up an already small player pool. Did the everleaf network not try to do this before and look where they are. Shane do the people who you work for take the players for a bunch of idiots? Good players make money off of bad players. If the network is limitting the amount of bad players the good players can go up against ( seems this way) then you are cutting into their profits. Why would anyone find this exceptable?

Will we know what category we are in? When will it be updated if you run bad/good

Segregates players based on whatever criteria they choose and somehow manage to call it "the natural flow of funds through the poker ecology." Since when is this a natural phenomena?

Are we to assume the classes will be divided into: top level, good-medicore/rakeback players, and fish? If that's the case ...I'm not sure I am going to feel relieved or get my feelings hurt if selected to the lowest level

Lock Poker fully supports this move by the network and will be removing the segregation when its put in place.


So when the plan is put in place Lock players will again be playing against the rest of the skins in the network (Intertops, Cake, etc) at all levels. ie: removing the segregation on 1/2+?

This is what the party poker version of this software looks like. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=_At1H1fDnss

The goal is for people to have no skill advantage over each. So only the rake wins longterm. Thats the only possible reason.

You know before they called it the Department of Defense it was called the Department of War. Some have suggested it be called the Department of Peace.

I think Shakespeare also had something to say about this name thing.