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12-05-2012 , 08:46 PM
Double Agent tables don't regenerate?
12-05-2012 , 08:59 PM
Is there any place I can see a list of the lock lotto winners for each day? I've earned enough points to be eligible for the highest lock lotto in 9 out of the past 10 days and haven't won it once. I'm not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure that some of those days I had to be the only one to earn that many points based on the big chase and who is up at the top of the leader board. I just feel like it's probably almost impossible that I didn't win at least one out of those 10 days.
12-05-2012 , 09:02 PM
I think they have a Twitter page that shows the winners. I believe somebody posted the link somewhere in this forum.

Last edited by 300zxrider; 12-05-2012 at 09:03 PM. Reason: too slow
12-05-2012 , 09:21 PM
Thanks.
12-06-2012 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by macgyver72
Made a deposit using THEFUTURE and no bonus is showing.
Takes a while to show up. Email support if you don't see it after a day.
12-06-2012 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ibavly
double agent thing is flawed

I play 100% of my action at the double agent tables but am only level 7 for that while I'm level 10 on the regular one.

Any comment shane?
There was a problem with the Double Agent script, this was fixed and payments were caught up. I checked your account and you already have all the missing payments.


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Originally Posted by macgyver72
Made a deposit using THEFUTURE and no bonus is showing.
If it still not showing up you can email me your details and I will apply this manually for you.


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Originally Posted by Mccormick
I just don't get it, though.. why shouldn't or wouldn't i be able to be free to choose where i play as a customer?

Furthermore.. bonus/rakeback abuse. It's like some sites make it sound like bonuses and rakeback are money GIVEN to their players (in Lock's case it actually IS for your top rakers (100+%) but THAT ASIDE) Rakeback isn't GIVING money, it's TAKING LESS. Sorry but that's just how i see it.

Why wouldn't a site, or a network, preffere their customers to use a bonus code extra on another skin, and have that person ACTUALLY PLAY on that skin and actually _PAY_ you money, rather than.. let's say.. have this person play at the COMPETITION instead?

just truely baffling to me, sorry, i've seen these rules aswell on the Merge network and honestly it just pisses customers off and deters them from playing on skins they can't have rakeback on at all.

Recent case for me like a week ago. I mail Carbon poker and say "can you put me back on Rakeback program because i was VIP player (Ether) but lost it all because i didn't play in a long time". Support reply: "no, we can't, because you have RB on another skin"

My reply: "ok then i don't play on your site at all and continue playing on Lock only"

It's that simple, right? To which they replied by the way "You are now on the Rakeback program" funnily enough.
Player poaching is a big problem for networks. While in a perfect world new skins would all be bringing in new players, but in the real world while rooms focus on new players there are a number of players who switch between rooms.

On a room level we accept this as part of life as a network, players will move. However as a room that accused of doing nothing but steal players we appreciate the rakeback rule as it gives a good framework and gives rooms a level of protection. Not putting a similar rule in place when they dropped rakeback caused a huge problem on our previous network. We petitioned hard for a similar rule to be put in place but it never happened.

On the network level while we understand players want to move we also have to protect our network partners. We want to have a healthy relationship wiht the other network partners, we want to be good neighbours. So the rule works as everyone is protected and time isnt wasted policing rooms stealing players.

Oh and on your point about the exceptions being made, while I agree that it can be good to look after particular players it does open a can of worms. As someone who has worked on both sides as a client services manager at a network policing the rule, and at a room working under the rule, I prefer a no exceptions policy as its easier to police and is a much clearer message to give to players.
12-06-2012 , 06:16 PM
Hey,

Glad to see you're back answering questions about promotions. Do you think you could step over to the cashout thread and answer why people are taking 1-2 months to receive ewallet cashouts?

I've asked this 3-4 times in the cashout thread and although it's been seen by the lock reps, they have ignored it.

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So now that youre here, can you tell us why the cashouts are taking so long for ROW players to ewallets when every respectable site gets it done in <48 hrs? How is this anything but a cashflow/insolvency problem on your end?

I don't know how many times I need to ask this before a rep decides to answer (or someone fills me in if it's been answered before), but I'm going to keep asking until someone answers or until you're silent long enough that the answer is self-evident.

If Lock doesn't answer, someone at 2p2 needs to let me know why a shady site like this can pay to appear to have a legitimate presence.
12-07-2012 , 05:06 AM
Can anyone tell me what the happy hour cash tables are about? Double pts or rakeback or something? Used to play more cash, but have been grinding tourneys this month...

*I received an email about this and found this thread about happy hour: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...-hour-1275205/

It looks like just double points... And I am assuming it is only on happy hour designated tables, though that is strange because they look empty to me right now and you would think it is all tables... Maybe a glitch or something.

Last edited by Woolworth; 12-07-2012 at 05:15 AM. Reason: Found the Info
12-07-2012 , 11:13 AM
Does MGR Leaderboard have rewards or is it there just for fun?
12-07-2012 , 11:51 AM
I posted earlier in this thread that the new day for Lock starts at 8pm EST, but that is incorrect. It is actually at 7pm. My apologies. Perhaps a mod could delete or edit my earlier post.
12-07-2012 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdClayChip
I posted earlier in this thread that the new day for Lock starts at 8pm EST, but that is incorrect. It is actually at 7pm. My apologies. Perhaps a mod could delete or edit my earlier post.
It used to be 8pm EST. I'm not sure exactly when they changed it, but I first noticed it Nov 30. It screwed me out of rake race money.
12-07-2012 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Jermz
It used to be 8pm EST. I'm not sure exactly when they changed it, but I first noticed it Nov 30. It screwed me out of rake race money.
I am pretty sure it changes with Daylight Savings... because GMT doesn't change... Is that correct?
12-07-2012 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Woolworth
I am pretty sure it changes with Daylight Savings... because GMT doesn't change... Is that correct?
That makes sense. No idea if it is correct.
12-08-2012 , 03:19 AM
Would be nice to be able to track how much rake you have paid on the double agent tables.
12-08-2012 , 02:45 PM
The fact that a good chunk of the Big Chase prizes are already gone is really bad. Double agent tables are a fail and those prizes should just have stayed in the regular rake race.

Lock has taken a step way back this month. Promotions are more confusing than ever and WU disapperance is just awful. Also, the lack of a rep explaining anything this month is just out of control. This is their forum on 2+2. You can't just pretend your not reading our posts.
12-08-2012 , 05:29 PM
I think they know exactly what they are doing with the Double Agent promo, SAVING MONEY!!! They are paying out a fraction of what they are saving by cutting The Big Chase in half from taking away the # of prizes. They knew these tables wouldn't get much traffic, they had to.

I've played 20k hands @NL20 this month so far and have cleared $12 in chase money. Only reason I was able to clear that was I played over 4k hands of it on Dec 1st. The DA tables do not even run at NL20, maybe 1 or 2 sporadically at 6max but never at FR.
12-08-2012 , 06:30 PM
I think the rake chase accomplishes exactly what it is meant to do. It gets players to play a ton extra on the first couple days of the month.

If it was easy to hit a bunch of later levels at 20nl it wouldn't accomplish their goal, might as well just call it +20% RB
12-08-2012 , 06:35 PM
Cutting down on the number of prizes would be fine by me if they were actually using that money to pay their customers.
12-08-2012 , 06:54 PM
so can anyone tell me what the mgr has to be to qualify for the double agent? for example, Level 4 is listed as $50 in rake and fees - what does than mean for a rakeback player? I have like 350 in mgr this month but no double agent bonus.
12-08-2012 , 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by montechristo
so can anyone tell me what the mgr has to be to qualify for the double agent? for example, Level 4 is listed as $50 in rake and fees - what does than mean for a rakeback player? I have like 350 in mgr this month but no double agent bonus.
Are you playing on the double agent tables?
12-09-2012 , 02:32 AM
i have been but not exclusively... been trying to start some but hardly any players sitting at the double agent ones. guess i have to clear 240 in rake just on the double agent tables to qualify?
12-09-2012 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by montechristo
i have been but not exclusively... been trying to start some but hardly any players sitting at the double agent ones. guess i have to clear 240 in rake just on the double agent tables to qualify?
that is correct. those specific tables you would need to rake the amounts to qualify
12-09-2012 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by montechristo
i have been but not exclusively... been trying to start some but hardly any players sitting at the double agent ones. guess i have to clear 240 in rake just on the double agent tables to qualify?
I like the idea and intent behind these double-agent tables. But once you fall behind in the rake-chase, does it really make sense to play on them? I think the field of players on them is tougher in general, and will only get tougher as the month continues. Maybe in the future Lock could do something like combining the Happy-Hour and Double Agent tables to offset this, if they choose to run these promotions again.
12-09-2012 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdClayChip
I like the idea and intent behind these double-agent tables. But once you fall behind in the rake-chase, does it really make sense to play on them? I think the field of players on them is tougher in general, and will only get tougher as the month continues. Maybe in the future Lock could do something like combining the Happy-Hour and Double Agent tables to offset this, if they choose to run these promotions again.
Don't even see why there are Happy Hour tables. Every cash table during the specified times should be Happy Hour. That is certainly what the email implied.

      
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