Well yeah. Posters usually don't give mods ultimatiums. I wasn't even talking about speaking with respect , I thought it was comical that a poster was putting a mod on notice .

If mccormick was really a paid Lock shill, it would go some way to explaining why the company is clearly insolvent.

This is some really sick stuff. I swear I didn't think they could spew anymore lies after all the bs they have been spewing. However, I was wrong. I guess I will give them credit for sticking to their bs that you are almost convinced they are telling the truth. But then reality hits and you realize it is just lies covering other lies that when they tell the truth it is unbelievable.

Is there ever any good news in the lock forum?

Its a pretty bad sign that they have gone missing and put up 0 effort even after all of this. i realize it was the weekend, but how much should that really matter?

From an accounting point of view it would go on the books as an asset (debit cash) and balanced by a current liability account (credit customer deposits) which nets to zero on the books.

However, in this case the asset doesn't ( shouldn't ) add any net worth to the company.

How much manual labour could there possibly be to process withdrawls?

seriously? it's harder than you think. Processing withdrawals takes a lot of work, it's not easy by any means. It's not like one can flip a few switches and poof the money is in an account. A few departments have to be involved.

Lock Poker is evidently not very good at this, unless you read this puff piece and believe this bull...

http://gambling911.com/poker/lock-po...99-050413.html

Depends on the help though.....

Unless it's Lock themselves buying their money back from players at .35 on the dollar deposited. ZING!

That would be genious.

+2

mccormick was only trying, and is the only one willing to share his correspondences with lock employees. if anything at the worse the type of stuff he posted atleast further holds lock accountable with an estimated timeframe for improvement. if failed, we have a direct quote to further scrutinize them/ruin their rep/demand they be burned at the stake.

2+2, when are we going to receive real answers from lockpoker? Give them a call and tell them their first post from Joseph is not even close to be acceptable.

Thanks

Are you referring to the direct quotes from Jim Erwood and Shane Bridges? Jim Erwood's quote didn't say much.

I'm sure both Erwood and Bridges would be happy to chat with you if you were willing to listen and agree. The minute you start pressing for new information, I don't think they would be all that happy to answer any difficult questions.

if i was lock i would stop saying things like "will improve within this week" because the level of improvement will be scrutinized and the timeframe. saying this makes me actually have to do something to make sure the criticism is not too great. if i said nothing i could just do whatevers and at the very least there will not be a new cause for criticism. now that mccormick posts a one on one skype convo at teh very least i gotta call the cashier dept up and get a dozen wu's processed asap.

if i was a lock employee i definitely would not want my name to be associated with promises for improvement and get 2p2's attention/wrath.

mccormick takes those two things away from them.

If you were a Lock Employee you'd have to say "things will get better in three weeks" because you're probably paid in three weeks and you're hoping for a paycheck to be there for you.

You come out and say in a private Skype chat that gets dumped onto 2+2 "hey, I think Lock is broke, etc." You break rank and have no chance of getting your paycheck.

the customer rep/support has to say that.

other employees can just defer the question to the customer rep/support. cant really defer no more when u admit in skype u know atleast some details about the situation. now you are added to 2p2's wanted list for people to blame if **** goes down.

You're right.

Why bother asking someone you know isn't in a position to give you the truth or an answer that will satisfy you?

Like I said before, if a person kept the conversation light hearted and didn't pry into reasons why they think that Lock is broke or not, they probably would be happy to tell a story that like "hey, it's getting better in three weeks".

****, you might even get a chance to hear about all the fun they had in Portugal with the Spice Girls or whoever they were.

Then start pushing and they'll send you to Official Joseph and the crew to help you.

I have yet to comment in this thread, so here goes a few quick points of my opinion, most of which have already been stated:

1) Obvious thanks to Mat n Mason, ANY/ALL help is better than where we currently were.

2) Joseph, Shane, JoeShmoe, there's no difference unless the information being passed along is different. And IF that information becomes different, then we have the issue of realizing that at one point or another we're clearly being mislead/lied to (not shocking).

3) I can't STAND the fact that we're focusing more energy on commenting on each other's opinions and fighting one another when we are all a part of the same team. What good does it do for us to bicker and split heads? United we stand as a poker community, especially a 2+2 community. Without cohesiveness, we have nothing.

4) Don't start typing to check out Lock forums on 2+2 while playing (if you're still playing), as someone suggested. As someone else stated, it will only deter people from playing. I'm not trying to say "screw all the fish", but if and when they experience their own withdrawal problems, they'll find these forums. Until then, let them continue to play so we have a SHOT at getting our money via rake/casino/etc.

5) Lock is clearly suffering money issues. There isn't a DOUBT in my mind, nor should there be in anyone else's. I'm not trying to sway anybody's belief, but so many other steps to reassure players of their bankroll security would have been taken if money wasn't the issue. I'm shocked that PrimordialAA has any confidence whatsoever. More likely than not, he's been convinced as many of us were at one point or another of "promises" and "goals" of payout times. (Mind you, i've been waiting 120 days for mine)

6) I'm disgusted at Jen Larson and her retreats, and all that other nonsense. You have some nerve woman. And that goes for all the Pro's that continue to go along with, and blatantly ignore all that is going on around them. Maybe I come from a different breed of human being, of "decent moral" descent. But how on earth can any of them knowingly enjoy themselves on company money right now? If the issue was only getting U.S. players their money, but the actual money was safe and secure, then that'd be one thing. But what's really at question here, is the fact that so many of us are clearly sharing the viewpoint that the money doesn't exist. If you're a real company with TRUE ambitions of getting back on track, you would have done something already to reassure your LOYAL CUSTOMER BASE that their opinions are incorrect.

7) I'm going to reinforce #3 here. STOP wasting your time and efforts in bashing each other. We're on the same damn team. When someone gets paid, I'm happy for them, aren't you? So when someone has an opinion that differs from yours, (oh noooo, not a different opinion O_O), don't hate if their intentions weren't harmful in the first place.

8) I believe nothing that Lock says, their reps, their security, people with "inside" information, affiliates, pros, social media, none of it. We can all HOPE that when reading the positives, they're true, and when reading the negatives, they're false. It's hopeful speculation. Hopefully Mike Matusow's version of "power of positive thinking" can help us out here, but I agree that until there's proof (which this situation has clearly warranted for some time now), then it's all just opinion and bullcrap.

9) I also don't understand why Pro's and whoever else wouldn't buy-up the funds at ANYTHING less than 1:1 if they were confident. PrimordialAA said he'd buy anything at .10 (because of the low risk-high reward i'm assuming). If you're as confident as you seem, you'd make a killing even buying funds at large at .75.

10) Lastly, if they're scamming, I agree with the comments that they wouldn't just close up shop. If this is the case, then we're talking about low-life scum-type people who knowingly chose to scam. They're not going to suddenly say, "Well, since the 2+2 Lock community is catching on, let's stop now". Realistically, whether they run this into the ground soon, or get to ride it out for a while, they literally have nothing left to lose at this point by continuing to run a Ponzi Scheme or something similar. And that, is a scary thought. That someone can feel so untouchable (Jen Larson and company), that even under such scrutiny, they do NOTHING. In fact, she feels so untouchable that she can still spend company money however she wants. The fact that you take a salary from your own company while owing your customers their winnings makes you my #1 candidate for 2013 Scum of the Year.

I truly hope this gets resolved

Does anybody know if I am able to send a p2p transfer after having received one? I've read through but haven't found the answer yet, trying to move my money off of this site at a ridiculous vig but don't even know if i can now because of all this p2p nonsense.

Here's a thought!! Lock stopped making payments to 2p2 and now 2p2 reps are just trying to save face. Scramble to remain credible to their customers after lock raped them for the last few years. Obviously not fact, just a thought!!

This seriously made me lol

Mason confirmed that Lock was up to date on their payments to 2p2.

So unless you think 2p2 reps are lying as well, you should probably reconsider your stance.

2p2 addressed the situation within a couple of days of the new transfer cashout restrictions being brought to the attention of the site owners. You may believe (I know some do) that 2p2 should have pulled their banner ads sooner because of cash out issues and evidence of general scumminess, but there is zero evidence that 2p2 or the paid employees/reps of this site have lied to anyone.

Yea, absolutely no way you would want facts to interfere with your thoughts.

There is pretty much 0 to indicate that, both in the recent events leading up to now, and in the history of this forum.

I think its pretty clear that the tipping point came when there was an eruption of complaints stemming from the cancelled cash outs/transfer policy fiasco that still hasn't been fully addressed by Lock. Its pretty unlikely that Lock's ad money ran out at that exact time, plus there wouldn't really be any reason for 2+2 to lie about that, plus they have no past history of lying about anything afaik.

^^^ I never claimed the statement to be my stance on the subject. Just making ludicrous claim with no supporting evidence just like everyone else on this forum. It's funny that no matter what angle you approach this mess in the threads here an immediate attack follows. Good times!! ;-)