weird, typing the same thing in to mine (with 4 spaces) works ok,

fake edit: your tutorial is for Python 2.x, you are using Python 3.4 - I think there is some compatibility mode you can enable, but I am no python expert (just typed my first few lines of it more recently than you did!). I would download Python 2.7.6 and continue your tutorial with it. You can see on https://www.python.org/ they offer both 2.7.6 and 3.4.1 directly underneath the download link.

The tutorials you are using are Python 2. You are using Python 3:

https://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html

Also, look for Python IDLE somewhere on your computer.

XAMPP+Sublime should be all you need to get going. Sounds like you're pretty new so I'd actually recommend getting really good with pure HTML+CSS before adding the other stuff.

@pewpewpew

Use print(i) instead of print i. I think most Python 2 tutorials are fine as long as you know/remember that print works differently in Python 3

Is there a market for a new open-source CMS that's primarily client-side javascript-driven, that can automatically creates mobile (and perhaps desktop) apps ready to be published? Or is it pretty easy to do with WordPress/Drupal/Joomla/etc and not adding much to what's already there? Have people gone down this route and run into a lot issues?

Eventually, I'm looking for something that works for LOB apps and crosses over to SharePoint/Salesforce territory.

Depends on what you mean by "automatically create mobile apps"
I'm not sure what you mean by it but it sounds like useful magic.

Drupal is awesome for this in my very biased opinion.

My last company built something similar, albeit somewhat buggy. They are very successful. Not open source though

I know the basic idea of HTML/CSS, but wouldn't be able to sit down and code much from scratch. I could do basic stuff when I was like 15, but DreamWeaver made it so easy to basically just draw **** that I stopped. I can read/edit the basic HTML stuff very easy and understand the concept of CSS.

Can you think of a pure HTML/CSS concept I should fully understand (or be able to code from scratch) before I should take on PHP?

The CMS would be written as a single page javascript app with a plugin architecture and a server-side fallback (as API) and have a deploy/build step that generates a UIWebView/WebView-based binary with all client-side assets packaged in and pointed to a specific deployment location Obviously you want to let people customize views/logic for different devices, but at least it'll give you something that works for every device out of the box. Well-written plugins can already contain customized/responsive views with server-side fallback and can be written to work without network connection for more app-like features.

Are these what you have in mind?

https://drupal.org/project/mag

http://www.drupalgap.org/

Ah got it now. Check out http://cordova.apache.org/ imo

I've started working from a hammock on my deck. So awesome. If I lived in California I would start an outdoor workspace with hammocks for everyone!

And where can one find these business hammocks??

http://www.amazon.com/Vivere-UHSDO9-.../dp/B004YJCP7O

And while I'm on my hammock kick, I have a separate camping hammock that is amazing. If anybody here camps regularly its way better than a tent.

Hank Scorpio: Uh, hi, Homer. What can I do for you?
Homer: Sir, I need to know where I can get some business hammocks.
Hank Scorpio: Hammocks? My goodness, what an idea. Why didn't I think of that? Hammocks! Homer, there's four places. There's the Hammock Hut, that's on third.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Hank Scorpio: There's Hammocks-R-Us, that's on third too. You got Put-Your-Butt-There.
Homer: Mm-Hmm.
Hank Scorpio: That's on third. Swing Low, Sweet Chariot... Matter of fact, they're all in the same complex; it's the hammock complex on third.
Homer: Oh, the hammock district!
Hank Scorpio: That's right.

Man, my hammock joy is almost overwhelmed by my hammock sadness that I missed the obvious Simpsons quote.

Edit: Especially a quote from what has to be one of the best Simpsons episodes of all time. I feel deep shame.

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Yea, that or creating a custom module. Which, in creating a custom one, it wouldn't exactly answer your original question, but considering how robust Drupal is, adding that level of customization is probably trivial for most projects.

that hammock doesn't look like I could get much done. Angles too odd, how do you code in it?

I have toyed with the idea of getting an elite hammock though.

I lay in it and code.

I don't sit in it like in the picture. There are also various hook points on the sides so you can adjust it from being really drooping to being almost completely horizontal.

Thanks! Just so my intention is clear, I'm not in need of this solution, just wondering if I were to create something like this, whether it can carve out a niche in this market or more. I probably need to spend more time researching various existing solutions to see how much of the complexity involved is accidental and how much is inherent.

The main use cases I'm thinking of are LOB apps, startups and medium-complexity content sites that could benefit from mobile app presence, but don't have the budget or organizational depth to offer dedicated mobile apps. Having independent codebases for multiple targets (iOS/Android/Web) seems like something that most organizations simply can't afford and even the ones that do tend to pay the price by having major discrepancies due to difficulty of coordinating features between different codebases.

Yea I see what you are thinking.

What I'm not sure about is what you mean by a company benefiting from a mobile app presence. How would these apps you are creating fit into an integrated enterprise environment, or would they not?

I was thinking both 1) SaaS vendors who may have to go through enterprise sales processes where being able to demo a "native app" working on an executive's ipad can be a huge sales edge against a competitor and 2) content sites (newspapers/magazines/video/etc) where product managers are afraid of getting yelled at for not having mobile apps like the big boys. The vast majority of mobiles apps that partially duplicate web app functionality don't need to be separate apps - they just need a delivery mechanism for the assets with some partial customization and having multiple development teams don't really work well unless you're working at massive scale.

The idea is to advertise these benefits up front and make everything else easy enough that choosing this framework becomes a safe choice for a new project, in case you may need the flexibility later. I think the promise of platform independence is a big lure even for development shops who don't need to create mobile apps right away. As far as implementation goes. I was thinking a more rigid frame around AngularJS and a Firebase-like self-hosted cacheable generic backend with with tons of prebuilt full-stack modules (authentication/blog/forum/generic CRUD forms/etc). Not sure how to balance the "web framework" like flexibility and developer-friendliness with the "CMS" like user/admin-friendliness, though I definitely want to aim for the middle.