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06-10-2013 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Nchabazam
I hate programming on less than two monitors... even if you can come up with ways to balance screen space, it's just a nuissance. No point nickel and dimeing when even small gains are likely to outweight the cost of the monitor.

Also, I'm moving to Boulder in two days. Went out last week, loved it, and leased an apartment.

Farewell Boston.
Ah, but then you're tied to working in that place. I don't think there's a single spot where I spend more than 20% of my time working.
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06-10-2013 , 09:52 PM
speaking of multiple monitors, now that I know there are at least 2 Cinnamon users in this thread:

I'm in Cinnamon, and I have an application open on one workspace. I go to menu/terminal and run that application. Do I get jumped to that workspace or does it open a new window?
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06-10-2013 , 10:17 PM
It was really nice to have dual monitors at the .net job. I still had some issues figuring out what window I was working in at times. I don't have very good eye-sight so a 3 lumen difference between active and inactive isn't very helpful for me. Yeah, yeah, change it to classic mode or whatever.

One of the really nice things about Windows 7 is win-arrow hot keys. Makes it simple to place windows next to each other.

Yeah, they finally told me to go in and fill out the W9 and paycheck. They're only a week and a half late and they're apparently unhappy that I bounced on them. They did ask for specifics and I laid out all the reasons. I don't think there is much they can dispute.

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06-10-2013 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by clowntable
Mouse: Vertical mouse FTW. I don't need buttons I need my hands to not get stressed out. Who uses a mouse anyways :P
I use those half-sized mice. The normal-sized mice are too hard on my wrists. Not sure why it works out that way, since my hands are larger than average.

Who uses mice? Let me guess, you aren't a stack-overflow copy/paster?
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06-10-2013 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I started my programming career at a Mac shop in the late 90s - I was also the backup system support guy - which back then basically meant zap the p-ram or rebuild the desktop. From 1999-2013 I was all PC though (except I have a mac mini for iOS apps).

Because I'm all in node now, and I serendipitously wound up with a Mac Book Pro and 2 27" thunderbolts, I decided to convert back to Mac. For the most part it's been smoother than I thought - except that in the morning my Mac has about a 50/50 chance of fully waking up from hibernation, and not needing to be force shut down. So freaking annoying. I get black screen, grey screen, pinwheel of death, frozen screen with apps showing, you name it.

I found a bunch of software and made mods to make the transition less painful for a PC user (Ctrl-C/V map to Cmd-C/V, scroll up/down the PC way, app to remember window position, etc.) If anyone is interested I will try to catalog them all. Windows is light years ahead of Mac as far as remembering and handling different multi-monitor setups.
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Originally Posted by tyler_cracker
given how apple prides itself on Everything Just Works, it really is astonishing how bad macs are at handling external displays.

two favorite behaviors i've seen when coming out of sleep:

- only external monitor is detected. um, hi, you're a laptop, you always have this screen, wtf are you doing?

- machine thinks external monitor is still there, displays screen saver unlock prompt on that (non-existent) screen. but then after i authenticate, shows beach ball o' death, time to reboot.

fwiw the first problem went away when i forced the monitor into one of its modes (DVI or HDMI iirc).
ACPI table issues I'm almost certain. Even though it's a Mac. It's probably possible to fix the tables with a little research.

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06-10-2013 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
With smart placement of apps/windows this can be achieved without a second monitor. It just takes a bit of practice to get use to switching to apps in the right order so that you have the window you're typing in not cover up the window you're reading from.

I rarely find that I need to adjust window sizes or am unable to see everything I need to in the same screen.
I can barely fit two default-size PuTTY windows side by side on my laptop ... let alone multiple web browsers.

The browser I am typing into now takes up ~80% of the screen. I can't fit it side by side with a default size PuTTY window. I can't even imagine how an IDE user could fit their IDE and a web browser in one screen.
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06-11-2013 , 02:36 AM
I watch sc2 tournies on teamliquid from time to time and recently noticed a link on the side saying that EG was hiring. I clicked it and this was the post:

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Evil Geniuses is hiring full-time (and part-time) web developers and web designers.

Since you’re reading this on TL.net, you most likely know who we are and what we do. But in case you don’t, we are Evil Geniuses; a fast-moving, highly-skilled new media agency which works with technology and other consumer brands interested in advertising to and engaging video gamers.

We’ve worked with Monster Energy, Intel Corporation, Kingston Technology, Anheuser-Busch, SkullCandy, Papa John’s, and many others on projects ranging from the design and development of digital marketing campaigns, to executing live event activations for tradeshows, to producing online gaming shows and tournaments.

We’re a fast growing company which has been featured in the New York Times, Forbes, CPU Magazine, Game Informer, and more publications than we can remember. But this is all a fancy way of saying we do a lot of cool stuff online which is viewed by millions of gamers each month.

Okay, that’s who we are, but here’s who we need.

The truth is we’re now gaining new clients so regularly that we can’t keep up, and in order to do so we need to increase our manpower substantially. So, we’re looking for US-based web developers and web designers who are eager to work within a highly creative environment of progressive people on projects which are just flat-out fun to create.

You’ll be given a supportive team of colleagues eager to make sure you have the freedom you need to do things the right way. We are constantly pushing each other and ourselves so we will expect no less from you. We want people who are aggressive in learning new technologies and techniques for fun, and also when projects demand it. We’ll give you projects which are exciting and fun, but which will test your skills.

And while we love people who aren’t gamers, we love gamers much more. Yes, that’s a cool thing called “favoritism,” folks! Given our projects are almost always gaming related, you better love gaming! And be engaged. Immerse yourself in the company, the gaming culture, and in your projects. We want people who understand what it means to embrace the opportunities they’ve been given.

Now for the nitty-gritty…

Web Developer

Experience developing in a Linux server environment (PHP, Ruby, Python, and/or JavaScript – node.)
Experience with front-end web technologies and methodologies, such as: HTML, CSS, Unobtrusive JavaScript, web standards and accessibility
Experience with a variety of transport technologies and methodologies, such as: REST, JSON, XML, etc.
Experience using internationalization and localization in your given programming language(s) and respective frameworks
Experience with Git or Mercurial SCM. We might accept SVN users, but be ready to explain yourself
Capable of developing custom backend solutions as well as leveraging existing third-party packages
Ability to understand why Warhounds were not a good unit to balance the game


Web Dev Bonus Points

Design-pattern informed software design and not just the trendy ones
Open-source contributor (show us your street cred)
Mobile development experience (native, mobile-web and/or cross-compiled)


Web Designer

Expert knowledge of CSS/HTML/JavaScript as it pertains to design
Experience with web usability, browser compatibility, and optimal site architecture practices
Experience working with mock-ups and basic layout concepts as design foundations
Expert knowledge of Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign (Flash / Fireworks are a plus)
Strong time management and communication skills
Strong understanding of new web technologies, social media, and their capabilities
Ability to work with team of creative thinkers
Inability to produce Widow Mines, play as Phantom Lancer, or think Zed is underpowered


Web Designer Bonus Points

Have experience with product marketing, packaging, and UI design
Expect revisions to your work; don’t assume your work is perfect
Never stop learning; be someone who continues to improve


And now onto the treasure boxes that you’ll want to open…

We’re interested in hiring for both part-time and full-time positions
Salary will all be discussed privately
Being local to San Francisco is a plus, but not required
Having a wide knowledge of game genres and competitive formats is useful


Ok! Ok! How do I apply?
Please submit all resumes with updated portfolios to apply@myeg.net using subject line “<Web Developer / Web Designer > Application – <Your Full Name>”.

Other than that, you’re all set. We’re excited to post this job listing to the very community which has been so supportive of Evil Geniuses and the initiatives we’ve run over the past decade. Adding new faces to our company family is something we’re always eager to do when we can, so we encourage anyone even slightly interested to apply!

Thank you, and we’ll talk to you soon!
Evil Geniuses
What do you guys think about their requirements? High/low/standard?
Do you think their list is 'standard' for companies who are looking to hire for similar positions?
I'm wondering b/c I'm in the stage where I'm just learning different things and languages and wouldn't mind keeping the web-dev&etc. door open but don't want to spend time learning about obsolete/rarely-asked-for skills.
Also, maybe some of you guys would be interested in the job =P
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06-11-2013 , 02:43 AM
The web dev stuff seems fairly standard. Do you like gaming?

Somehow I doubt my Chun Li and Madden '92 experience and NHL '93 Blackhawks mastery would impress them too much. Yeah please tell us some more Pong stories old man.
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06-11-2013 , 02:57 AM
I take it you never browsed Monster or Craigslist to uh... get a pulse on what people are looking for.

Usually, they want you to be experienced on the top-ten web and non-web programming languages you'd find on any Google search, usually, RoR, Java, .Net, C++, PHP, Node, etc. You should also be well-versed on 4 different JS frameworks, have learned some new-fangled language like Scala and / or Clojure (preferably "and"). You should also be comfortable hand-coding HTML 3, 4, 5 / CSS 2, 3 at an advanced level and have certificates to prove it. You should be versed in jQuery & Vanilla.js (saw this one, no lie), and you should be comfortable setting up a dev env in Windows XP, 2000, Vista, 8, Mac, and Ubuntu, and at least one other OS. You also need to be proficient with Dreamweaver, Photoshop, and Illustrator.

You also need at least 3 years of experience and a degree from a Top 50 school. No slackers or non-serious coders / applicants will be considered.
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06-11-2013 , 03:00 AM
Absolute worst of the worst example of taking a perfectly decent site on tablets, and screwing it all up: http://www.royalsreview.com/2013/6/1...central-titans

But as a bonus, let's pick a site that's more conducive to viewing on a tablet than any other – one primarily used for game day threads. Last year it was fine on tablets. The year it's frozen 90% of the time. During that 10% you can scroll a page or so, then it freezes again. Awesome.
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06-11-2013 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by daveT
I take it you never browsed Monster or Craigslist to uh... get a pulse on what people are looking for.

Usually, they want you to be experienced on the top-ten web and non-web programming languages you'd find on any Google search, usually, RoR, Java, .Net, C++, PHP, Node, etc. You should also be well-versed on 4 different JS frameworks, have learned some new-fangled language like Scala and / or Clojure (preferably "and"). You should also be comfortable hand-coding HTML 3, 4, 5 / CSS 2, 3 at an advanced level and have certificates to prove it. You should be versed in jQuery & Vanilla.js (saw this one, no lie), and you should be comfortable setting up a dev env in Windows XP, 2000, Vista, 8, Mac, and Ubuntu, and at least one other OS. You also need to be proficient with Dreamweaver, Photoshop, and Illustrator.

You also need at least 3 years of experience and a degree from a Top 50 school. No slackers or non-serious coders / applicants will be considered.
Then you walk in with about 1/3 of those, don't drool on yourself, and get the job.
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06-11-2013 , 03:11 AM
"You do know we require you to be knowledgeable and experienced in Drupal, WordPress, Zend, and CommerceOS as well?"

"Uh, well... yeah, I have some..."

"Where's your certificates to prove it? These 4 Drupal sites you built don't impress me."

"And you know MySQL, Riak, NoSQL and MongoDB, right?"

"I uh... know Postgres?"
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06-11-2013 , 03:47 AM
Is android programming a good field to get in? I have been coding my "pet app" in my spare time and really enjoy it so far.

You may also recommend some good books/blogs on Android programming. I have read "Hello, Android", which was a good introduction, but I think I want something else.

I have a MSc in Stats so I have had a decent amount of CS subjects. I think I want to shift my career towards something, that involves a bit more coding/scripting and less staring at the data. At work I currently tend to enjoy things like writing scripts to scrape data/automate something/build a stat model. I don't enjoy things like writing a report or tasks like "just stare at the data and see what useful can you get out of it". /Enf of rant.
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06-11-2013 , 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by daveT
I take it you never browsed Monster or Craigslist to uh... get a pulse on what people are looking for.

Usually, they want you to be experienced on the top-ten web and non-web programming languages you'd find on any Google search, usually, RoR, Java, .Net, C++, PHP, Node, etc. You should also be well-versed on 4 different JS frameworks, have learned some new-fangled language like Scala and / or Clojure (preferably "and"). You should also be comfortable hand-coding HTML 3, 4, 5 / CSS 2, 3 at an advanced level and have certificates to prove it. You should be versed in jQuery & Vanilla.js (saw this one, no lie), and you should be comfortable setting up a dev env in Windows XP, 2000, Vista, 8, Mac, and Ubuntu, and at least one other OS. You also need to be proficient with Dreamweaver, Photoshop, and Illustrator.

You also need at least 3 years of experience and a degree from a Top 50 school. No slackers or non-serious coders / applicants will be considered.
Ya I'm no where near that I was just kind of wondering. One thought I have though after learning a few programming languages is that I don't think it makes sense for someone to ask that a person be "an expert" in the language in question. From my personal anecdotal evidence it seems like "OOP skills and generally 'good' programming" is an entity separate from any language, and the language is simply semantics (syntax). I mean I feel that once you learn the basic syntax you are not very far behind someone who has been coding in that language for years and years (thanks mostly to stack overflow and the like). What do you think dave?
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06-11-2013 , 04:49 AM
How the hell would I know?
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06-11-2013 , 05:30 AM
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How the hell would I know?
Experience. I ask mostly b/c you said something along the lines of "very well-versed in..." or "expert in..." (iirc).
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06-11-2013 , 07:56 AM
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How the hell would I know?
Historians would note that this was DaveT's shortest. Post. Eva.
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06-11-2013 , 10:46 AM
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Ya I'm no where near that I was just kind of wondering. One thought I have though after learning a few programming languages is that I don't think it makes sense for someone to ask that a person be "an expert" in the language in question. From my personal anecdotal evidence it seems like "OOP skills and generally 'good' programming" is an entity separate from any language, and the language is simply semantics (syntax).

I mean I feel that once you learn the basic syntax you are not very far behind someone who has been coding in that language for years and years (thanks mostly to stack overflow and the like). What do you think jjshabado?
I disagree. I think once you learn the basic syntax and if you have a good general understanding of programming concepts you'll be productive in a language but I think you're still far behind someone that really intimately understands the language.

I've been programming in Java for a little over 10 years now and Python for only a couple of years and I still don't feel nearly as comfortable in Python and I still have to look up Python-ic ways of doing things or sometimes get hit by bugs caused by my not understanding the language really well [ def foo(some_list=[]) ] for example...
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06-11-2013 , 11:25 AM
I like it when job descriptions ask for more years of experience in a technology than that technology has been in existence. 5 years of angular.js? Sure no problem.
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06-11-2013 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryanb9
Ya I'm no where near that I was just kind of wondering. One thought I have though after learning a few programming languages is that I don't think it makes sense for someone to ask that a person be "an expert" in the language in question. From my personal anecdotal evidence it seems like "OOP skills and generally 'good' programming" is an entity separate from any language, and the language is simply semantics (syntax). I mean I feel that once you learn the basic syntax you are not very far behind someone who has been coding in that language for years and years (thanks mostly to stack overflow and the like). What do you think dave?
There's a level of competence where this starts to come into play, but very few people are that good. If, after learning how to use a given language feature, you can make a reasonable and largely correct guess as to how it is implemented (and can implement it, if necessary), you're probably good enough to become almost as sufficient as most experts in the language upon learning it first time. Even then, there are difficult languages like C++, Scala, Java and C# that have no shortage of things that can trip you up, not to mention idiomatic usage that has more to do with the culture surrounding the language.

The same is true of frameworks or libraries - a core Play! framework developer can probably be more productive in Rails than most Rails developers without much experience, but the same is not true of most Play! developers.

The kicker is that a lot of "experts" also don't know how their language or framework works and their experience has taught them not much beyond Pavlovian reflex to steer clear of features where their vague understanding isn't sufficient to avoid trouble. True experience isn't measured in number of years, but number of hours spent on pushing various boundaries. So yes, it's true that you can be as good as some of the pretenders without much experience. But if they are getting ahead in their careers, it's for reasons other than pure technical competence. Being as good technically as people whose technical competence isn't their selling point doesn't mean much.
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06-11-2013 , 11:48 AM
I can write C in most languages, and have been for years
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06-11-2013 , 12:22 PM
You're lucky, I've been writing COBOL in most languages...
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06-11-2013 , 12:35 PM
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I can write C in most languages, and have been for years
Well played.
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06-11-2013 , 12:45 PM
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Experience. I ask mostly b/c you said something along the lines of "very well-versed in..." or "expert in..." (iirc).
I had a trollolloll opening here. That post was completely sarcastic, btw.
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06-11-2013 , 04:34 PM
I'm spitting nails. I go to the office and of course all of this late payment is 100% my fault. I'm apparently a really good employee but paying me is such an awful inconvenience for them.

Can't believe this guy I never spoke with up and talks to me like I'm meat and then says come back at 5. The sinister side of me hopes beyond hope that they aren't ready yet.
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