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Old Yesterday, 02:18 PM   #38901
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

Equal pay policy (so no merit based increases, just totally based on X role, Y years of experience?) and 72 hour deadlines?
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Old Yesterday, 06:04 PM   #38902
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** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

I think youíre underestimating your leverage here. Even if B wonít move on pay theyíll probably move on something. And even if they donít, it should still be leverage against A (even though you probably didnít need it as much as you think you did).

The 72 hour offer is almost certainly bull****. And if not, **** them. Why work for a company like that.

Do you really not care who you work for (as in it all depends on the offers) or do you have a clear preference?

Edit: Honesty the deadline on the offer just pisses me off in most cases. Unless theyíre literally hiring only one person for the role and they already have a backup they want to offer if you pass (something that is super rare in tech these days) itís just a ****ty sales tactic.
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Old Yesterday, 06:10 PM   #38903
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Yeah and definitely don't waste vacation days during your last 2 weeks. Take the vacation payout and just don't work those 2 days. Usually once you give notice it goes through hr system so in most companies your vacation balance is locked after giving notice.

Maybe Iím just Canadian but this seems pretty unethical to me. And it seems like a good way to leave a final bad impression with a bunch of people that you might want to work with down the road.

A good network of coworkers and managers that like you and like working with you is really valuable. While it probably wouldnít be noticed itís not something Iíd be risking.
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Old Yesterday, 06:41 PM   #38904
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

Jj spot on as usual. Although im fighting the urge to post exactly what you just said as if I didn't read your posts
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Old Yesterday, 07:50 PM   #38905
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Equal pay policy (so no merit based increases, just totally based on X role, Y years of experience?) and 72 hour deadlines?
Yep itís based only on X role and Y years of experience. The pay band is +- 20k. So it seems like the only way to get a significant pay raise is by promotion. Company B also has a 1 year vesting cliff where as company A is monthly.

I want to get the numbers from Company B and then have companyís A match so I can move on.

Side note, I really want to have my last day be August 7th since so I can fly out earlier, not use PTO and save money on vacation. Which means I should give notice tomorrow to hit that 2 week mark. But that means I probably wonít sign anything yet by then. Should I still do it anyways? Iíll need a VP sign off from company A but it should be relatively straight forward.
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Old Yesterday, 09:03 PM   #38906
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Jj spot on as usual. Although im fighting the urge to post exactly what you just said as if I didn't read your posts


Hah, appreciate it.
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Old Yesterday, 10:05 PM   #38907
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

I've hopped jobs a ton of times the last ~8 years and all I can say is FFS go with your gut, its never been wrong for me at least.
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Old Today, 12:58 AM   #38908
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I think youíre underestimating your leverage here. Even if B wonít move on pay theyíll probably move on something. And even if they donít, it should still be leverage against A (even though you probably didnít need it as much as you think you did).

The 72 hour offer is almost certainly bull****. And if not, **** them. Why work for a company like that.

Do you really not care who you work for (as in it all depends on the offers) or do you have a clear preference?

Edit: Honesty the deadline on the offer just pisses me off in most cases. Unless theyíre literally hiring only one person for the role and they already have a backup they want to offer if you pass (something that is super rare in tech these days) itís just a ****ty sales tactic.
Yea the whole 72 hour deadline blows. Iím just waiting to hear back numbers so I can take to company A so they can match and sign. I have a clear preference but I havenít made it known to either recruiters what they are.
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Old Today, 06:40 AM   #38909
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Yea the whole 72 hour deadline blows. Iím just waiting to hear back numbers so I can take to company A so they can match and sign. I have a clear preference but I havenít made it known to either recruiters what they are.
Add 10-20% to this.
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Old Today, 06:53 AM   #38910
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Side note, I really want to have my last day be August 7th since so I can fly out earlier, not use PTO and save money on vacation. Which means I should give notice tomorrow to hit that 2 week mark. But that means I probably wonít sign anything yet by then. Should I still do it anyways? Iíll need a VP sign off from company A but it should be relatively straight forward.
Probably would be ok doing that in my view.
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