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Old Today, 10:46 AM   #38201
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** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

Yea... thereís also a scenario i can see forming where my boss leaves and iím almost positive i wouldnt get his title but would be doing all of his work
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Old Today, 10:49 AM   #38202
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

At some point you’ll start caring about yourself as much as you do the job.
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Old Today, 11:07 AM   #38203
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still nowhere near as miserable as my last job situation, but even with that I stuck through it knowing it would lead to something better at it there. I am assuming this will be the same, if I stick it out a little while longer
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Old Today, 11:38 AM   #38204
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

I mentioned this before but I donít really see how this line of work leads to something better. Youíre getting some PM experience but you donít have the background or training (or likely a successful project to showcase) to actually get you future PM roles (imo, Iím not a PM expert by any means).
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Old Today, 02:11 PM   #38205
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** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

I mean, Iím running a massive project right now. PM isnt rocket science to learn. All the tools are mostly the same. It just requires a lot of soft abilities that arent really teachable IMO. Itís not like development where you gotta learn some tool and specialize in it. A simple cert and some credible project experience can get you to other places.

I think I am really raw but have the soft abilities and can do it I just cant stand this. I also dont know if I want to be a developer, Im thinking the last several years was a huge mistake.

CFO pulled me aside today for ďmentoringĒ and wanted to tell me that he knows I feel Iím in over my head and that a lot is being asked of me, but that I am young and this is an incredible opportunity etc. he also said he thinks I can do way more than I think i can and that I need to lead and basically stop showing my lack of confidence in myself.

He also said ďits totally normal for people in this field to be doing 120 hour weeksĒ like LOL **** off this whole convo just made me angry even though I really appreciated the gesture.
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Old Today, 02:14 PM   #38206
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The way he was talking made it seem like yes Iím being thrust into a situation that is not really fair to me (he said the product guy the CEO just fired was supposed to do a lot of this) and that Iím in a ďnew roleĒ etc etc. sounds like time to get a raise talk to me.

I agree w him that it is a good opportunity but I know itís going to take a toll on me and thatís what Iím weighing
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Old Today, 02:14 PM   #38207
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All he cared about is getting you to work 120 hours a week.

Seriously, these are not the people to mentor you.

Youíre making a huge mistake (IMO) to not be actively looking for your next thing.
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Old Today, 03:03 PM   #38208
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Yea I just feel stuck. Thereís a job opening on Hearthstone team I think I am a great candidate for and itís actually my dream job so I will update my resume, apply there, and if **** goes south Iím ready to go with an updated resume.

It seems like they really just want someone to kick some ass and break some skulls. Ive been told numerous times I got this job because I used to be a captain (lol). Idk what their impression is of what that job entails but they definitely want someone running things. I know I can do it but itís gonna be extremely unpopular with several people and I fear it may lead to turnover, but whatever. I am so completely over a lot of peopleís attitudes here that I think I could unleash the skull-cracker part of my personality but i dont know if they realize how uncomfortable it may get.

I had to go home after our usual 8am conference call because I was so exhausted and needed some rest and I think thats what triggered the pep talk. I collected myself and Iím going to go back to the office and give him a proper reply. Definitely going to mention money but not sure what else. Work/life balance is extremely valuable to me because my personal lifeís honestly a mess but I dont know how to say that to him.
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Old Today, 03:09 PM   #38209
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lol he's just reading straight from the script and you're buying it? just start interviewing. what do you have to lose. trust me, you'll have a much different perspective as soon as you have another offer.
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Old Today, 03:32 PM   #38210
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

jmakin' - piss on your boss's desk. If he doesn't fire you - your strategy is working. If he does, this wasn't the right job for you anyway.
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Old Today, 03:38 PM   #38211
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

re: Jmakin's situation

I haven't really been following this, but it sounds like they just want you to be the bad guy. Maybe they should hire some consultants.

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Old Today, 04:18 PM   #38212
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

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CFO pulled me aside today for ďmentoringĒ and wanted to tell me that he knows I feel Iím in over my head and that a lot is being asked of me, but that I am young and this is an incredible opportunity etc.
Translation: "Please accept these words of gratitude in place of a raise despite the fact that we are underpaying you for how hard you're working"

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Yea I just feel stuck. Thereís a job opening on Hearthstone team I think I am a great candidate for and itís actually my dream job so I will update my resume, apply there
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Old Today, 04:27 PM   #38213
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

The conversation more felt that he was worried I was projecting my insecurity outward and I needed to reign it in. But yea that too.
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Old Today, 05:55 PM   #38214
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

Speaking of work BS. I'm getting a little tired of this stuff from my boss (in an email to me, her boss, and another boss):

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It doesn’t look like they’ve got a chance to do any registration testing, and we just heard this afternoon they weren’t able to access stage site which means our firewall rules wasn’t set right.
Guess who sets the firewall rules? Me. Guess how long this issue took to resolve? 5 minutes. Guess who repeatedly told the testers to send me an email if they see a blank screen, since I don't know all the IP blocks I need to open up?

And of course instead of remembering that the tester spams the whole group. Which is fine. But what sucks is it gives my boss an excuse to throw me under the bus and try to cancel the meeting (since she's sick anyway).

The older I get the less tolerance I have for this ****.

What bugs me the most though is I think I responded perfectly appropriately - reminding everyone of the situation and pointing out how quickly it was resolved - yet I still (obviously) can't stop stewing about it. Yay dieting. I wish I could live in the moment and let **** like this go after I've said my peace.
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Old Today, 05:58 PM   #38215
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jmakin's situation sounds like something straight out of a Michael O'Church rant I hope you're able to get outta there soon, man.
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Old Today, 06:41 PM   #38216
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

Itís not normal to work 120 hour weeks, wtf man? I canít remember the last time I worked more than 40.

Maybe if you are an exec and making high 6 to low 7 figures but probably not even then.
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Old Today, 07:04 PM   #38217
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I canít remember the last time I worked more than 40.
I hope 120 is an exaggeration (17 hours a day x 7 days? wat?) because that is some BS, but I did as high as 70 (maybe 80) in the gaming industry where it's a lot more common (but I got paid overtime for it). Maybe as high as 50-60 when I was at a startup and we were kinda crunching on an important deadline (was salaried at that point), but it was rare.

I would guess that, outside gaming, the frequency of >40 hour weeks is probably inversely proportional to the size of your company.
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