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Old 03-08-2019, 01:00 AM   #37851
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It's a brutal never-ending enterprise.

Doesn't help either that Android seems to deliberately obfuscate their UAs wrt to device and OS version, so you have no idea what's going on.

We had one C-level executive who kept wanting us to add windows phone to the mix (because he had a windows phone). We kept politely saying let's just wait until it gets traction. How many windows mobile OSes did we go through? 7? Literally all of them bombed. But man the hype - this is gonna be the one that sticks. Every damn time.
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Old 03-08-2019, 01:01 AM   #37852
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It does seem to suck and I haven't got everything quite right yet even on my computer - chrome and firefox and my phone chrome - but the problem I guess I just hit some cache memory limit in the middle of a page load can wiping all my cache cleared that thing up.
If you show 50 of something on your desktop before loading a new page, you should change it to 10 or so on phones.
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Old 03-08-2019, 01:07 AM   #37853
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If you show 50 of something on your desktop before loading a new page, you should change it to 10 or so on phones.
It wasn't anything like that. A pretty sparse page. Changes in CSS weren't showing up on the screen at all for one div, but they show up for others. Googling suggested that other people had similar problems so I thought it was a bug, but decided to clear all my cache and then it worked.
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Old 03-08-2019, 01:10 AM   #37854
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Chrome has some kind of inspector on Android right?
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Old 03-08-2019, 01:20 AM   #37855
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Looks like there's something you can download. I don't see anything standard. I just remembered that Chrome on Windows has a emulator for mobile and at least right now it's pretty spot-on what my phone shows.
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Old 03-08-2019, 01:26 AM   #37856
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Things must have improved a lot then. 8 years ago the emulators were ****e.

If everyone has moved to Chrome, meaning Samsung finally abandoned the terrible Android native browser (so ****ty it never had a name except "Internet") - that's a very good development.
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Old 03-08-2019, 02:13 AM   #37857
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Wtf why is so urceforge . net blocked?
A few years back they put malware in the installers of the popular projects, causing people to leave. Then appropriated the newly abandoned projects and added malware to "new" versions, or something like that. I think it's supposed to be all good now, but their reputation remains forever tainted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceForge#Controversies

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Old 03-08-2019, 02:26 AM   #37858
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Wow - that's terrible.
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Old 03-08-2019, 07:28 AM   #37859
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Victor - maybe your shop should be worrying more about teaching basic software development fundamentals rather than implementing mega-extreme-agile, letting struggling devs rebase, and whatever a 4pm elevate is.



Also all that stuff is completely intentional. She's either not trying or has no idea what she's doing - but in 20 years has gotten really good at obfuscating things.

Beware she's probably also got a million passive-aggressive tricks if you go directly against her. As long as your boss is aware of the situation, and doesn't seem inclined to do his job and get her out of there, the best move is usually just to wait it out and try to pawn her off on someone else. There's probably a running joke that everyone gets a turn.
Lol she's actually extremely nice. I kind of feel bad for her. Just thought it was funny.
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Old 03-08-2019, 11:17 AM   #37860
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its really amazing how just a few lets say less than impressive coworkers just bring things down. like, theres an amazing amount of handholding and rework from them. but then we also get emails like this.

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The xxxxxxxxx Tracking needs to be completed by Wednesday please. There is only one entry created. I am not sure who needs to add the entries. Thank you.
no link to the tracking. no requests for the information necessary. just...that.

I swear the rest of my team is awesom tho. believe me.
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Old 03-08-2019, 12:29 PM   #37861
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How do you guys deal with a co-worker who is difficult to work with?

Last week was trying to understand what this "fix" that this senior engineer was doing. He explained the solution and when I asked him to look at the data ETL query that would clearly point out that his solution would solve nothing, he got extremely irritated and kept saying that what I was trying to do was a different problem. He gets extremely childish and often goes on rants during meetings where it often gets awkward and tiresome to work with.

He eventually opened the PR at the end of the day Friday while everyone was either out on vacation or off for the day and he got one approval from one junior engineer. Then eventually forced merge the PR Monday morning before anyone was in despite the fact that you need 2 approvals before merging.


His "fix" absolutely did nothing and brought in more risks to our service. Do you just try and avoid working with this person? Bring it up to my manager? I'm not the only person who has difficulty collaborating with this individual. There has been a lot of friction between him and the whole team, except with the junior engineer who is a yes-man to everything.
Speaking of bad devs, this person got moved to another team. I donít understand how my managers pulled it off but they pawned off a ticking time bomb.
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Old 03-08-2019, 07:45 PM   #37862
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i have been accepted for some remote work via a staff agency from a recruiter who found me on LKIN. i have already done a successful technical interview with the company. now the recruiter wants at least two people that he can call to ask them about me... the recruiter has no technical knowledge of web development - which makes this seem um totally pointless.

who does this **** in 2019 ?

most of the people i know work at my company and you guys told me before there is no benefit telling my current company that i am working two jobs so i don't want to involve them.

the other people that i could ask i only know from online, mostly from developer slacks.

also, i feel like this has the potential for them to start getting spammed, which i wouldn't want. also, who the feck wants to field random calls from dumbass recruiters asking about strangers you've spoken with online.

i'm thinking of just paying someone on upwork to field the call.
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Old 03-08-2019, 10:02 PM   #37863
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This sounds like a pretty standard reference check. If so, they're just going to ask something like would you work with x again?
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Old 03-08-2019, 10:29 PM   #37864
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the only people i have worked with are the ones at my current job. i have only talked with people on the internet. that's basically it. 13 years of o.n. l.i.n.e p.o.k.e.r prior. i guess i need to go to more meetups or something.
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Old 03-09-2019, 01:47 PM   #37865
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the only people i have worked with are the ones at my current job. i have only talked with people on the internet. that's basically it. 13 years of o.n. l.i.n.e p.o.k.e.r prior. i guess i need to go to more meetups or something.


Well if the recruiter knows your current job is the only one youíve had you should be able to get by with saying you donít want to use references from your current place of employment.
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Old 03-09-2019, 02:56 PM   #37866
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who does this **** in 2019 ?
Most companies in my experience.

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the other people that i could ask i only know from online, mostly from developer slacks.

also, i feel like this has the potential for them to start getting spammed, which i wouldn't want. also, who the feck wants to field random calls from dumbass recruiters asking about strangers you've spoken with online.
The concern should be more that 1) the hiring company wouldn't consider these real references if you've never met them and if you're never done anything together; 2) they wouldn't be able to actually confirm anything that they are trying to confirm.

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the only people i have worked with are the ones at my current job. i have only talked with people on the internet. that's basically it. 13 years of o.n. l.i.n.e p.o.k.e.r prior. i guess i need to go to more meetups or something.
What does your resume say? References should be largely based on what you have on your resume. Did you ever go to college or even a bootcamp? You could reach out to classmates from schools that are professionals to see if they could serve as a reference. A major plus if you've ever done any long-term projects together. I've done this for a friend who was freelancing for a long time and getting a professional job for the first time. Also college professors or event bootcamp instructors are fair game, just reach out if you think they'd remember you. Reference checks are generally done to verify that you're a normal functioning human being that's not lying about past accomplishments, so the more they are tied to your past accomplishments the better and the more they can vouch for your actual IRL personality the better.

If you don't have any of this, assuming this is an important opportunity for you, you should also consider asking your current coworkers, if you're personally close to anyone.
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Old 03-10-2019, 12:08 AM   #37867
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Why do you feel the latter 2 sentences?

We use it and are implementing it basically anywhere mobile or web talks to a service. We also use entirely nosql/apis and it seems to model fine. Complex relationship stuff is a sticking point, but that's pretty deep in our specific structure. Versioning kind of sucks because you basically just have to add fields, there isn't that /v1 /v2 style convention like there is in REST.

But overall, I really enjoy it, it vastly simplifies calling the service both for data and the fact that there is only 1 route, and no route implementation concerns implementing the service is nice as well.
Finding it difficult to support arbitrary queries that hit multiple services, each with not so great latencies. Over 70 micrservices and hundreds of APIs, it's kind of spaghetti services architecture we have here. Nested queries are also scary and seem like a big DDoS risk. Another issue we have is choosing Ruby (ugh) instead of the reference nodejs implementation. The ruby implemention doesn't do nested resolving async, basically it resolves 1 level at a time. It's in parallel at each level, but that's not ideal.
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Old 03-10-2019, 12:12 AM   #37868
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ya I do same as jmakin. try to steer the really easy work that way.

pairing with her to try to fix her code or implement a design is just brutal. I have to instruct her at the lowest level. like, ok, move the cursor to the end of the line and remove the last word, etc.

still, I can overcome that. what really kills me is that she is incapable of taking on any sort of outside communication to solve an issue. like, she has a story card that is implementing something for another team. say logging. well something is ambiguous or maybe an outright mistake. she comes to me and I confirm, yes that is likely an issue or yes you should get clarification. but then she just never emails the logging ppl to clear it up or if she does email them the communication is just so ambiguous and incomplete that it doesnt get resolved. then I need to step in and get everything figure out it.

this frustrates me bc when I work(ed) a story card or whatever I do everything I can to get this crap figured out without involving other ppl. its not the tech lead or tso job to figure out these granular implementation details. but I am forced to bc she is unable to properly convey the issue.

another thing that kills me is that she just hasnt progressed at all. I sat next to her and helped her with stuff almost a year ago. it wasnt too bad since she wasnt on my team. she joined my team about a month ago and I was thinking, well she has been learning for a long time now, she should be reasonably competent and able to take on some simple tasks. big nope.

so ya I have no recommendations.
Hire better and fire faster for people like this. Not everyone has the same work ethic, common sense, or intelligence to do the job.
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Old 03-10-2019, 12:14 AM   #37869
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I suffer from imposter syndrome occasionally, but then I hear stories like this and it goes away - keep them coming please.

I must have been extremely blessed to have hardly ever come across people like this in my workplaces thus far.
Ya this. There was 1 junior women who was pretty clueless and couldn't code that I once worked with. Clearly our interview process missed this completely. But they are reasonably smart and started doing better after a lot of mentorship. Then there is this 1 guy who is "Senior" but basically never gets anything shipped, works 10-3 and still manages to keep his job. But it's been rare so I consider myself pretty lucky not to have to deal with this kind of incompetence regularly.
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Old 03-10-2019, 09:48 AM   #37870
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Hire better and fire faster for people like this. Not everyone has the same work ethic, common sense, or intelligence to do the job.
Easy to state, very much harder to implement.
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Old 03-10-2019, 03:16 PM   #37871
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some random Chinese dude contacted me on slack and wants me to create an upwork account and i can keep 20% and he does the work. what's the catch here?
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Old 03-10-2019, 03:24 PM   #37872
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LMAO, what could go wrong?
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Old 03-10-2019, 03:30 PM   #37873
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Start a business. The work and money flows through you. You get 50%, but give him a % for clients he originates.
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On why he can't create his own account: "I had own account 3 years ago. But I have lost account info right now."
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Old 03-10-2019, 05:13 PM   #37875
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some random Chinese dude contacted me on slack and wants me to create an upwork account and i can keep 20% and he does the work. what's the catch here?
What do you mean by "Chinese" dude - is this person a Chinese national living in China? Also, is this person asking to use any part of your identity for this - exactly what is it that you can do that he can't? I guess it could be "legit" (well it's still shady but at least there are some scenarios where you're not the mark) but it could also be part of an industrial espionage operation. It feels a lot like someone paying you $350 at the airport to check in their luggage - I'm sure you could imagine some relatively innocent reason and I suppose the chances are that you won't end up in a lot of trouble, but the worst case scenario seems both extraordinarily bad and totally plausible.

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On why he can't create his own account: "I had own account 3 years ago. But I have lost account info right now."
This doesn't sound legit at all. I'm sure you can recover account information for substantially less than 20% of net pay.
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