So I applied to a company today that is in pre-funding stage. Part of their tech stack is Laravel (PHP). Naturally, I wanted to know if this was just part of initial launch. Basically, are they planning to use PHP longterm or is it just to try and get something launched quickly. They plan on sticking with Laravel for the long term. Would you accept a role at this company? I'm generally of the opinion that there are far better options than PHP which afaik is the majority opinion as well.

I did PHP for like 6 years and thought it was great. I could see a problem if you were on a big team and people didn't agree to any consistency in style and syntax, but I was either alone or senior on a small team.

I think a lot depends on their answer to why they’re using it.

I wouldn't turn down a good opportunity just because it's a meme to hate php

I think it's likely all the normal reasons. Easy to get started, fast to get a prototype up and working, big hiring pool, etc. I think that probably makes sense for an initial launch but not for later on after you've been in business for a number of years.

Is it ok to ask questions such at this in this thread...?

Trying to learn React and I've tried every combination of thing I can think of and looked up a bunch of Stack Overflow answers, but to no avail and I'd like to understand this more than just make it work.

The mouseOut and mouseOver functions get called when you click on and then off of the image, but don't happen when hovering over and leaving.

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GOD ****ING DAMNIT it works in Firefox, but not Chrome. I thought all this ****ing framework bull**** was supposed to make things work crossbrowser!!!!!

Did you try all lowercase in the event method calls? IE - onmouseout, onmouseover. Your function names are fine. https://www.w3schools.com/jsref/event_onmouseout.asp

Javascript and HTML have a weird relationship like that. Camel case with Javascript but all lower case when called inline in HTML elements (except when it's not).

Ok, nevermind. I had Chrome on device emulator for a phone and that could only have happened by an errant misclick. I've been trying to figure this out for hours.

From the last post - it works. I did try lots of case changes. REACT seems to require some of the javascript to be camel cased inside the render function or something like that.

That'll do it. No hover on phone.

The stuff you see there is React JSX which is almost but not entirely unlike HTML. It tends to enforce camelcase for stuff that isn't camelcase in HTML. Although TBH I don't know for sure about JS events like this.

Yeah that seems weird since onmouseout is just an HMTL property on the image element, and you'd think react would just interpolate the stuff inside the { }. But maybe that's the way it is.

Yeah it's pretty annoying. They do it for CSS properties too. I think it will work outside of strict mode but it'll nastygram you all day for it.

Microbet, yes it's absolutely fine to post things like that here.

You have a missing <Layout> which I assume is just a copy/paste error. Otherwise looks perfect. What a difficult to spot error in test environment configuration!

I don't think there's a missing tag - he used <Layout /> which is both an opening and closing tag.

ah yes

Spent a few minutes trying to figure out why this code wasn't working:

Then I realized it was actually:

Not the first time I've been tripped up on - vs. =. I may need to give in and start wearing glasses.

Someone once slipped a 0 where a O should go, and I was using a font where they were very similar and holy crap I stared at that a long time.

Misnamed variables are the cause of like 99% of the bugs i end up dealing with. Luckily it becomes pretty obvious with scripts that you have done this.

I've got a super-computer in my pocket and my fridge can order its own groceries - but apparently these are still unsolvable technical problems:

1) Wireless headphones that actually work

2) Not constantly getting external monitors mixed up and rearranging or switching applications from one to another (Mac only)

Fun combo - somehow my wireless headphones can get in a weird sleep mode and stop all video from playing - doesn't matter if it's youtube, facebook or what. Only reboot could fix it.

But after going crazy trying 100 different things - I finally figured out if I unplug and re-plug the two usb3 (or thunderbolt 3 or whatever the hell they are) ports that everything plugs into - then video immediately starts playing. But of course then all my windows are rearranged and it's like a 50-50 shot if my monitors are swapped.

The weirdest part is the mac still knows where the monitors are in relation to each other. So it switches all programs even though it still knows which monitor is on the right and which on the left. Figure that one out.

Yeah mac's window arrangement stuff is awful. Sometimes I'll unplug my laptop from external monitors do some stuff am and then plug it back in and one of the windows I was actively using has collapsed down to just enough pixels to display the traffic light controls. And of course that tiny box is positioned halfway offscreen

You don’t know Mac screen hell until you lose a terminal window in between monitor views

haha this drives me insane!

Work wants me to supervise some contractors from Belarus and be the lead on a feature. It sounds like a great opportunity on paper but I have almost no managerial aspirations. Am I pretty much obligated to do this or is there a good way to politely decline?