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Old Today, 01:28 PM   #34601
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

The problem is you've got rooms two big video screens with dedicated hardware that no one knows how to work except the AV support guy.

And of course if you have two giant conference rooms full of people, and one person on video chat wfh - the conference video software will ALWAYS decide to give the person wfh gigantic screen first class status and shunt one of the conference rooms into a small thumbnail in the corner. And no one ever knows how to fix this.

And the stupid camera is almost impossible to line up straight as any tiny touch sends it flying in one direction or another.

Also no one can ever decide whether to use the built-in sound, or fall back to speaker phone on a conference call. And then at some point someone will have terrible feedback. And maybe at another point someone will go on hold and music will start playing, and you have to get an admin to drop them if you can identify them.

etc. etc. etc. this is just off the top of my head, there are 100s more issues I've seen
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Old Today, 01:34 PM   #34602
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

Suzzer, have you used meet or Zoom?

Every conference room can show the current and up coming meetings. You click one button to join the video conference for the current meeting. Nobody needs to touch the camera or speakers.

If someone wants to present they can join and present their screen to everyone.

If someone wants to select a different screen to show you use the arrows on the remote and select the box you want to make big.

Honestly a company and team that can't figure this **** out isn't worth working for or with.
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Sounds like your IT guy just sucks. The game done changed and he hasn’t kept up.
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Old Today, 01:44 PM   #34604
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Similar to what I was saying before, this is also a core competency for any decently sized company. If you can't make conference calls work for a remote person how do you function with people on different floors / buildings / cities / countries? How do you meet with clients? Candidates? Etc.
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Re: ** UnhandledExceptionEventHandler :: OFFICIAL LC / CHATTER THREAD **

I will say at my last company i would Google meet into our scrum in an uber/Lyft on the way in and it was flawless 99% of the time and that 1% was trying to communicate in a tunnel.
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I use zoom now a lot but there's still some standard lost time at the beginning of the call when having external people call in.

Funny enough as I'm writing this we had an issue where one person was reverbing even tho they had everything muted.

It's really good but imperfect.
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I don't think you guys understand that we're not talking about one person projecting their monitor somewhere. We're talking about big gnarly expensive video conferencing hardware and control panel things and then random wfh people trying to connect up to that with skype for business or whatever.

And yes, the IT department might suck. But the point is I know this is the norm at lots of big companies.
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Maybe that's what you were talking about?

But I said:

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* Do all conference rooms have video chat software already set up and easy to use?
And you didn't seem to think that was possible at all. And I'm telling you that it is. Possibly the secret is that you don't need "big gnarly expensive video conferencing hardware and control panel things".

I don't doubt that lots of companies have ****ty IT departments and can't figure it out. But that's what you want to figure out before you join the company.
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Right - but based on all my experience and all the snarky jokes I see on twitter - very few companies can actually handle full scale video conference integration w/o constant hassles. You'd think in 2018 this would be a solved problem - but no.
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Sounds like your IT guy just sucks. The game done changed and he hasn’t kept up.
^ this, we use video chat in lots of meetings and it's pretty seamless.
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And you didn't seem to think that was possible at all. And I'm telling you that it is. Possibly the secret is that you don't need "big gnarly expensive video conferencing hardware and control panel things".
I'm not arguing with that. I'm just saying many many companies fit that bill. Sometimes that's just the world you live in and you can't do anything about it.

I read jokes out it all the time and have lived it at 2 big companies. One problem with our company is that they made some deal with Microsoft, so we had to use Skype for Business. Everyone hated it.

I will make sure to ask to inspect the video conferencing setup on my next job interview though.
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I'm enjoying the typical first day on the job: sign up/register for a million things while bombarded with tons of info. you can't possibly retain, punctuated by staring blankly at the screen for chunks of time. Just found out I have to pay for my own parking. Bleh.

But the good news is they're basically counting on me to architect this whole AWS lambda platform. I'm gonna be in way over my head but when it's all said and done I'll have learned a ton and be making tons of decisions.
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I will make sure to ask to inspect the video conferencing setup on my next job interview though.
I'm honestly not sure if you're being sarcastic here or not. But if you're planning on being remote or the company actively supports remote workers - yes, you should absolutely find out about this.

Edit: This isn't a strange question either. Candidates regularly ask me things like this in interviews - because even if they're not remote we're clear that other people they'll work with can be remote or in a different office.
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Just my experience, but none of my remote jobs started out remote. They migrated that way after I built something. Or when I joined a remote team.
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Old Today, 04:48 PM   #34614
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So we're basically starting from scratch at my new job. The boss' preference is to avoid servers (including EC2 instances etc.). So we're looking at hosted git. Gitlab.com seems to have some nice features over github.com.

https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comm...ting_platform/

The built-in CI flow is enticing to me as I'd rather avoid having to start from scratch with Jenkins. Anyone have any experience with this?

Anyone have any other hosted git platforms they like?
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