I've used a container component architecture sans redux pretty heavily on a couple of react projects. We've started using redux in more recent projects that I haven't had opportunity to be hands on with. It seems like a lot of boilerplate for no gain over the container style.

100% agree on redux being overkill at least more than one connected component for most use cases. Just have the top level app handle the store then pass it down to components. Yes there's a lot of prop chains but its also not a million connects and double component/containers and mapstatetoprops nonsense.

Lots of drama on my game lately where one of the more prolific players who has always claimed to be a hot 18 year old asian woman may be in fact an obese 29 year old asian man who stole someone's identity. i.e. more time I need to waste on ****. It did inspire me to learn to scrape the tor exit node IP address list and did learn that string.split('\n') works fine for a list of inner htmls so uh I got that going for me.

Almost 50k games played on my game so average of 7.5 players and 10 minutes per game means I've taken ~7 years of humanity away. Going on my tombstone obv.

No offense, but you can't put that stat on your tombstone until you've sucked away more time than you lived. Now that's an achievement!

Games really only being going strong for ~3 months so I got that covered fam

redux is massive overkill

mobx more than gets the job done for state management, even endorsed by Abramov himself

https://twitter.com/dan_abramov/stat...334912?lang=en

Update on the side job screwing me for anyone who is interested, recap:

8/15: normal payment day for previous month's work, no payment

8/16: text CEO who has been very responsive but ultimately useless - he can't get a hold of boss or wife (who pays the bills)

8/24: CEO calls me personally, he finally talked to the boss, boss doesn't know what went wrong, promises to pay me from his personal acct if necessary. Will be taken care of in the next couple days. Optimism for payment rising.

8/29: CEO says Boss again nowhere to be found. Optimism crashed again.

9/2: I mention I'm going to start small claims. CEO says boss' wife wants to sign some kind of share buyback paperwork and sign checks then pay me blah blah meow chow. But should be done by DOTY Monday. I'm guessing DOTY was supposed to be EOTD.

9/5 - today: CEO asks for my address for share buyback checks (I technically own about 2% of the company assuming a normal Series A - although it's unclear to me if I worked the full year to even vest 1/4 of that - also the company is a dysfunctional basket case so I really don't expect them to go anywhere). I give address, ask about the shares - blah blah BS. Ok so when do I get the paycheck? "Boss wife is supposed to be doing it this week". Well that sounds encouraging.

So I fired off an email to the 6 employees left. There are some partner-types who do nothing so I'm guessing they don't get paid salary or hourly. Two of the employees are the boss' boys, so I know they'll get paid. But the other 4 might be very interested to know that they may not get paid for their last month of work.

A few hours later CEO texts me complaining that my email made it to boss' wife and now she's pissed. AND SHE WAS JUST ABOUT TO PAY ME! Bwahahaha right. I'm like dude - it's been 3 weeks and all I've gotten is the runaround. Do they think we're not going to tell each other if one of use doesn't get paid? It just shows how ****ing stupid and terrible at business they are.

It actually makes me feel good to know that I at least caused them some existential pain with that email. Hopefully everyone's even more demotivated, although that's hard to imagine possible. Also could mean that maybe they're not quite ready to shut the company down - which is good for me.

The dumbass project manager replied to me. He submitted invoices late so he's hoping to get paid for June, July and August on 9/15. LOLOLOL dip****. How could you let them get into you for that much? They may be just trying to string things out until 9/15 then stiff everyone.

Anyone know of a good crash course of how to get started with debugging performance in React? I noticed my site is starting to get slow. It's very possible (or rather, likely) that's a result of rendering ~300 items into a list and that's simply never going to be fast (next to-do is lazy loading, like, grab the first 20 items and don't bother rendering the rest unless you scroll to the bottom) - but, it's probably not good that I don't currently have the knowledge to verify that's the issue. How do I measure, like, what my code is doing/if I'm using React badly/stuff like that?

I messed with Chrome dev tools for the first time and got this output:



Seems like this is all React stuff?

One other question along the lines of "how do I make this not ****ty" - the way my page works at the moment is, I have an app state with a few lists of data, and a main display list; you click buttons that change which list is in the main display list. Through the magic of state setting, everything Just Works but I assume a source of slowness is that every time you switch, it's probably re-rendering every item in the list over again, even if that list has been rendered before. Is there a way to, like, render all list views and store them somewhere, then (instantly, I hope?) swap out which one is currently displayed when the button is clicked, as opposed to recursively re-rendering the entire world? (I may be/am likely misunderstanding basic things about the nature of the DOM in asking such a question)

gb your post is pretty vague and thats fine but all I can say is I've never had problems with react like this that results in more than ~300ms delays. Its probably not react.

Straight up thieves

How would I go about tracking it down, then?

Bleh, seconds after the edit window elapsed.

An article or two later, I found react-addons-perf:



Linkify is this, ItemDisp is my custom component rendered per list item...seems relatively fast compared to the overall render time.

ya they def dont intend on paying your. and that project manager is screwed. unreal that he hasnt been paid in 3 months.

I mean, I guess you coulda threatened the ceo and the wife with outing them to the company before dropping that email.

or mebbe negotiate for some lesser percentage of salary since they clearly are trying to avoid paying out.

pretty messed up situation and if I were you I wouldnt quit on trying to get that money, tho Im not sure of how to proceed.

I did mention to the CEO that I was going to let the other employees know - about two weeks before I actually did it. The boss and his wife (boss/owner is not CEO) are basically non-communicative over email or phone. Everything is going though the CEO.

Last night I got this from the project manager's personal email:

Heh, **** is hitting the fan apparently. I love how the owners turn my unsolicited email around and use it to cause problems for the remaining employees. A-holes.

Heh, I just realized there are 5 remaining employees, not 6. I sent that email to my old company email as well - which may be how it got to the boss' wife. Although that would mean she's reviewing all spam. Hmmm. Probably for the best.

Hah, I don't even really know what that means.

Like what kind of political problems can you cause these guys?

Yeah who the hell knows. Maybe they're lying to the employees and saying they're having some kind of dispute with me over my invoice.

If they don't expect to get their last check, then they might quit as soon as they get their check. That is a problem caused.

there is no doubt that the owners are spreading doing everything to discredit you in the eyes of the remaining employees. for obv reasons.

it actually seems that you will likely make out much better than your coworkers by only losing one check. the rest are gonna get effed bad. esp that project manager.

Yeah I'd feel worse for him if he wasn't an annoying dumbass. I know he was billing by the hour because he would try to drag out every meeting as long as possible.

Also the developers had this thing where the boss would ask for something ridiculous, so we'd just stall and ignore him until he forgot about it. That is until the freaking project manager would bring it up again out of the blue. STFU ARGH.

They might pay everyone else just to spite me now. heh

Yep - I could have quit as soon as they paid me for June - and only been out 2 weeks pay. But then they'd have a legit excuse to be pissed at me and drag their feet paying me. Also I didn't know they wouldn't pay me, just suspected.

So I decided to do the above board thing and work hard the last month. Also the CEO told me he's never bounced a check. I have reminded him several times about that.

I know one thing - I will definitely say no the next time someone wants to pay me monthly with net 15 - and use this experience as the reason. Even though it worked out here where I got paid for about a year - they could have easily screwed me early on after a few paychecks. And every month I would get stressed right around paycheck time - when they owed me for 6 weeks of work. I never trusted them, and it turns out I was right.

But that's not a problem for the employees. That's the part I don't get.

"Well unfortunately due to the developing situation with suzzer, we need to make sure our legal liabilities are all buttoned down. So sadly, due to suzzer's hostile attack, we'll need to delay payment to everyone for a few weeks while we re-organize our financial structure and consult with our legal team."

is no more ridiculous than:

"suzzer the boss' wife was just about to pay you before that email, now she's pissed" after 3 weeks of runaround

Pure gaslighting.

Why should suzzer want to cause problems for anyone other than the management? It should lay at their doorstep, imo. Unless I'm missing something.

What pieces of **** these guys are.

The project manager emailed me back on his personal account, said me emailing them on thier company accounts "causes us political problems". We're speculating on what those might be.

I doubt they want to confirm or deny anything that you say in an official email for legal reasons. If they deny it, then that's a legal problem. If they confirm it, then they can't discredit you.

There's only X$ for payroll. One of the employees is smart enough to quit when they get payed and grab it. The others aren't. It's a prisoner's dilemma if I'm not mistaken.

tbh, I would've done the same. By bringing it to the attention of the employees, management has to solve their payroll problem. You're essentially helping them in some respects by stopping them from kicking the can.