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03-15-2017 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrin6
Going to have a phone call with the director of engineering soon to talk about team placement. I mentioned to him before when I accepted the offer that my interests were more in the backend development rather than front end stuff.

I don't have any web development experience and most of my experience has been in iOS development. I want to be put on the team working with Akka and Scala even though I have no experience working with those technologies, though to be fair most other new grads don't have that experience with it either.

Any advice? I wouldn't mind being put on the mobile team but also at the same time I would rather work on the back-end stuff. Maybe I'm overthinking things. Worst case scenario they put me on the front-end team, which I would suck at, get put on PIP and fired in 4 months.
Work "akka-believe it" into the conversation and you're in.
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03-15-2017 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrin6
Another question, is it common to be placed on a team with no prior experience with tech stack that the team is using? I'll have no problem picking up new things.
Im starting Monday on this scenario, so I guess well experience it together!

Also, my love for scala is well documented itt, so do that obv
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03-15-2017 , 09:32 PM
Anyone interested in working at Amazon?

I'm looking for another developer to join my team. We build tools for investigating theft and fraud, WPV threats, etc. It's actually interesting work.

The position is in Seattle (paid relo -- I believe $10K or option to use relo service). Competitive pay. Our boss is great -- laid back, friendly, uncommonly reasonable guy who looks out for his team. You'll have a lot of freedom and flexibility, he's whatever the exact opposite of a micromanager is (macro? I dunno).

As far as requirements, we're flexible. We want someone with experience building web applications, but the specific stack you've used is not a dealbreaker. My team mostly uses Ruby on Rails with some NodeJS and a bit of Python. If you don't know RoR but are willing to learn, I'd like to talk to you. The last dev we hired (still on the team) didn't know Rails when we brought him on. Javascript is a significant plus.

I'm not the hiring manager (my boss is) but I'm doing the technical part of the interviews. I despise the way most companies usually do tech interviews. I prefer seeing work you've done in the past and talking about ways to approach real-world problems.

If you're interested, email me at "s-e.th .turn" at world's biggest online retailer. Remove all non-alpha chars from between the double quotes.
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03-15-2017 , 10:50 PM
Anyone know of a good guide about how to do web authentication properly? Messing around with an Android app + corresponding web service where I imagine I'd want to support account creation or the typical "sign in with your favorite social network" stuff, and I have to imagine this sort of thing is a solved problem by now.
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03-15-2017 , 11:08 PM
We were starting to move from SSO to Oauth at the place I was at. Seemed like Oauth was much easier to implement than SSO but it never got to the point where I had to explain it to our customers.
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03-16-2017 , 05:20 AM
I see everyone recommends K&R and Stroustrup for C/C++ fundamentals. I think that books on fundamentals aren't necessarily introductory books.
goofyballer you are right when you say that OOP and C++ go hand in hand. I practice Java and DDD, and do have some C++ experience. I like to brush up on basics / fundamentals on things, just find that well applied basics go a long way.
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03-16-2017 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sdturner02
Anyone interested in working at Amazon?

I'm looking for another developer to join my team. We build tools for investigating theft and fraud, WPV threats, etc. It's actually interesting work.

The position is in Seattle (paid relo -- I believe $10K or option to use relo service). Competitive pay. Our boss is great -- laid back, friendly, uncommonly reasonable guy who looks out for his team. You'll have a lot of freedom and flexibility, he's whatever the exact opposite of a micromanager is (macro? I dunno).

As far as requirements, we're flexible. We want someone with experience building web applications, but the specific stack you've used is not a dealbreaker. My team mostly uses Ruby on Rails with some NodeJS and a bit of Python. If you don't know RoR but are willing to learn, I'd like to talk to you. The last dev we hired (still on the team) didn't know Rails when we brought him on. Javascript is a significant plus.

I'm not the hiring manager (my boss is) but I'm doing the technical part of the interviews. I despise the way most companies usually do tech interviews. I prefer seeing work you've done in the past and talking about ways to approach real-world problems.

If you're interested, email me at "s-e.th .turn" at world's biggest online retailer. Remove all non-alpha chars from between the double quotes.
Can you comment on the horror stories about tech work at amazon? I'd love to get an insiders take.

Last edited by Wolfram; 03-16-2017 at 07:33 AM.
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03-16-2017 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Barrin6
Another question, is it common to be placed on a team with no prior experience with tech stack that the team is using? I'll have no problem picking up new things.
Sure, especially for younger developers.
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03-16-2017 , 10:57 AM
Been making progress, learning about C++11/Modern C++, school might not force to to retake classes for credits, but it's JAVA (never used JAVA).
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03-16-2017 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfram
Can you comment on the horror stories about tech work at amazon? I'd love to get an insiders take.
Id like to hear his too, but from friends at amazon, it seems to boil down to "stay out of anything related to retail" and youre good
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03-16-2017 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfram
Can you comment on the horror stories about tech work at amazon? I'd love to get an insiders take.
Sure. I can only speak to my own personal experience. Opinions and views are my own, I don't represent Amazon.

The truth is, I don't know any horror stories. My time at Amazon has been a good experience. Perhaps I'm just oblivious, but it seems like most people I interact with at Amazon are also pretty comfortable. I've worked at other places before where people were miserable and it was visible everywhere, constantly. I don't see that here.

I'm happy to answer any questions.
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03-16-2017 , 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrin6
Lol sounds like me. I tried teaching myself C when I was 16-17. Took one of my mom's Intro to C programming book and tried to read through it. None of it made sense and I gave up after 10 mins. Didn't touch programming for close to a decade as well.

I hope that translate to less burnout like you think.
That was me too pretty much, when I first went to school I finished half of a business admin degree, if I had studied CS then there's no way I would've made it

then I take java a few years ago and loved programming and thought that's what CS was so I went further, ended up being pretty good at math so i continued. Funny now, I absolute hate programming and like the CS stuff more.

i may end up going the post grad route so I can teach, i'm not really sure I'm cut out for this
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03-17-2017 , 12:56 AM
Google Codejam registration is open for those interested https://code.google.com/codejam/contest/registration
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03-17-2017 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
i'm not really sure I'm cut out for this
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03-17-2017 , 02:14 PM
Just got off the phone. I'll be working with Scala, woo hooo! Gave my top 2 picks for which team I want to be on. Waiting to hear back on which one I get, but my #1 pick should go through. Will be working on backend services.
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03-17-2017 , 03:27 PM
Good luck with the monads!
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03-17-2017 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrin6
Just got off the phone. I'll be working with Scala, woo hooo! Gave my top 2 picks for which team I want to be on. Waiting to hear back on which one I get, but my #1 pick should go through. Will be working on backend services.
Congrats! Glad everything's working out for you.

Regarding functional programming, coworker sent this out yesterday and I imagine many here will enjoy it: Acing the technical interview (featuring what I think is Lisp, judging from the number of parentheses?)
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03-17-2017 , 04:39 PM
This has started popping up occasionally at the bottom of the JIRA window:



Neither of the links (survey or the X button) do anything lol
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03-17-2017 , 05:03 PM
My brother works at a startup and they recently fired a senior engineer who has been only working for 6 weeks. Is it me or is that incredibly fast?
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03-17-2017 , 05:17 PM
Not really, although it depends on the reason. But if you know someone isn't going to work out - why wait?
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03-17-2017 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrin6
My brother works at a startup and they recently fired a senior engineer who has been only working for 6 weeks. Is it me or is that incredibly fast?
If he was hired because he said he knew the stack and then didn't, that seems slow.
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03-17-2017 , 05:25 PM
For anyone to get fired in 6 weeks it basically means everyone who gets an opinion is 95%+ sure the person isn't going to work out. Has to be a pretty egregiously bad fit and obvious move at that point usually.

At my last company, think the fastest we moved on from someone who showed up everyday and "did" their work was 6 weeks. 3 weeks for someone who came in late almost everyday and then no-call no-showed during the 3rd week. This was a truly terrible hiring decision that I learned a lot from.
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03-17-2017 , 05:31 PM
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This was a truly terrible hiring decision that I learned a lot from.
Do you mean that warning signs were present before the hire that you didn't see or were ignored? Would like to hear more about that if so.
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03-17-2017 , 05:41 PM
My brother said it was due to poor performance. But I want to put a little bit of blame on the hiring/interview processing here.
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03-17-2017 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Barrin6
My brother works at a startup and they recently fired a senior engineer who has been only working for 6 weeks. Is it me or is that incredibly fast?
We had to do that, guy talked a good game but didn't get anything done. After he was fired he got stoned and came back to the office. Awkward. It created our safe workplace plan, which was just leave if someone weird showed up.
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