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03-15-2019 , 09:23 PM
https://skillprogramming.com/top-rat...b9byhJXJRGYrfQ



This one pretty well encapsulates how I feel about Java these days.

Last edited by suzzer99; 03-15-2019 at 09:34 PM.
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03-15-2019 , 11:00 PM
+1 to that example! Couldn't stand working in Java.
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03-16-2019 , 01:58 PM
I just did a Hacker Rank screener test/quiz for a job that is given a 55 minute time length.

The test had 4 questions, 3 you have to write code, 1 is what is the output.

One of the code questions I passed the test output, and other two I was probably 90-95% complete, but wasn't able to finish/pass the test cases.

My quick question is for these types of screeners am I screwed if I don't simply get 100% of the questions right?

Is close but not done good enough? (They can look at my answers and see how close I was probably..)
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03-16-2019 , 02:20 PM
There's no hard answer for this, just going to depend on the standards of whoever looks at your results.
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03-16-2019 , 04:11 PM
Reminds me of my algorithms class in college. I had a notoriously hard professor (who was great at teaching, I learned a ton in the two classes I had with him, less good at grading) who graded midterms based 100% on either getting the right answer or not. And these tests are, like, maybe 3 questions total that will each take you 30 minutes to solve, and worth a ton of your final grade. You could demonstrate a full understanding of the algorithm the problem is asking about through diagrams or whatever and still get 0 points if you wrote the wrong number at the end.
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03-16-2019 , 04:14 PM
Came to post: Time To Play Fair

Spotify coming out firing at Apple, filing a complaint with the EU for anti-competitive behavior. The timeline is interesting to look at - details all the times Apple has singled out Spotify for harsh treatment (arbitrary and capricious app rejections, denying them access to the Apple Watch) due to their competition in the music space. Apple's walled ecosystem is one of the most harmful things in tech imo.
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03-16-2019 , 06:52 PM


Is an Apple commenter talking about the suit, which is interesting. Spotify referring to its customers as "fans" is pretty funny. Also, the comparison to Apple taking money to sell apps and Spotify who takes money to stream apps is interesting. What is a fair price for the service they provide, which includes access to around a billion devices? Particularly when it allows businesses to give away apps for free.
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03-16-2019 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
What is a fair price for the service they provide, which includes access to around a billion devices?
Yeah, the complaining about Apple's fee doesn't strike me as particularly convincing. On the other issues, though, it seems to me like Apple is engaging in textbook anti-competitive behavior. They're using their muscle as platform owner to subject service providers to fees and roadblocks that they, as Apple, do not have to deal with in offering competing services. Stuff like, forcing Spotify's product to be ****tier by not offering them Apple Watch access (until last September), or apparently preventing them from even mentioning the existence of a premium service in their app if they're not gonna use Apple's payment system (and pay their tax) to charge for it.

For the scary amount of control Google has over the internet, you don't see them doing stuff like this in the Android Play Store despite also having a service (YouTube Music) that competes with Spotify and providing access to more devices worldwide than Apple.
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03-16-2019 , 08:43 PM
I don't know enough about why Spotify doesn't have access to the watch or to Siri to know if it's anti-competitive or some weird security thing on Apples part. Similar to the original restriction to web apps they had. Given the tone and veracity of the rest of their claims I'm leaning towards Apple being control freaks more than caring about the competition with iTunes. There is certainly room for Apple to improve though.
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03-16-2019 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
https://skillprogramming.com/top-rat...b9byhJXJRGYrfQ



This one pretty well encapsulates how I feel about Java these days.
FWIW - to expound this spoof code really captures some of my biggest pet peeves well. Factories to create factories - and (n, null, null, 0, null) as arguments is perfect.

But maybe the biggest one is including the most important input (the previous/seed fibonacci number) in the first method call, then obscuring it with two other method calls later, especially one that takes *this* as an argument.

The important inputs should always be front and center, and not require a cognitive-debt code trace to ultimately figure it out imo. I'm always going to ignore the cruft and scroll straight to accessNextFibonacciNumber. But of course then I will be confused as to how it knows what the previous next fibonacci number was. Oh it's in the builder factory. Duh.
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03-16-2019 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tercet
I just did a Hacker Rank screener test/quiz for a job that is given a 55 minute time length.

The test had 4 questions, 3 you have to write code, 1 is what is the output.

One of the code questions I passed the test output, and other two I was probably 90-95% complete, but wasn't able to finish/pass the test cases.

My quick question is for these types of screeners am I screwed if I don't simply get 100% of the questions right?

Is close but not done good enough? (They can look at my answers and see how close I was probably..)
Curious as to why you didn’t finish. I will guess that writing code in a HackerRank test environment is quite a bit different than the coding environment you normally would use.
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03-16-2019 , 09:40 PM


This is probably my favorite FB ad ever. I tried to buy some Stoli Sticki (which is not being made anymore and I think I'm slowly buying up the last of the world's stock) from this company then the next day realized I was paying like $50/bottle with EU->US tariffs, taxes and shipping. (I may have been a bit drunk when I ordered). I woke up, realized what I'd done, and emailed them the next day to cancel. They obliged.

Now they're paying FB lots of money to keep advertising to me.

AI will replace us all. SOON!
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03-16-2019 , 09:42 PM
Buying flavored vodka has to be the best Suzzerism yet
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03-16-2019 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Grue
Buying flavored vodka has to be the best Suzzerism yet
The heart wants what the heart wants
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03-16-2019 , 10:00 PM
The drink I make is so good. I've been ordering stoli sticki online for years. One of those miracle things where it was just what I happened to have in the house.

Sticki is weird in that it's supposed to taste like honey but is really more floral - like roses or something.

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03-16-2019 , 11:13 PM
if u like florally tasting stuff you should try this

https://rachelcooksthai.com/chrysanthemum-drink/
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03-17-2019 , 12:05 AM
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3 cups water
3 Tablespoons dried chrysanthemum flowers
2 Tablespoons sugar
1 cup crushed ice
How am I supposed to get a buzz off this?
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03-17-2019 , 12:23 AM
IMO the best things going for java are app portability and reflection.

I also like to use it for proof of concept and C code generation.

And I've seen the worst of java projects that get beyond bloated and virtually impossible to maintain.
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03-17-2019 , 12:32 AM
Yeah I don't think Java (or C# or any structured language) is the problem. I think it's these horrible over-architected anti-patterns.

I took a mongo class (which I paid for because my BIG COMPANY was too cheap to shell out $500). The teacher had a C# example project that looked a ton like the above. Just endless factories and classes - all containing like 4 lines of code referencing some other bloated class.

It's so simple! - only 20 classes to implement the standard hackathon project of voting on where everyone should eat lunch. I made fun of it, I thought in a playful way. But the teacher was not amused.
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03-17-2019 , 11:19 AM
It is definitely no fun when the trainer wants to be the smartest person in the class and enjoys ****ing with people in the class.
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03-17-2019 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerHero77
IMO the best things going for java are app portability and reflection.

I also like to use it for proof of concept and C code generation.

And I've seen the worst of java projects that get beyond bloated and virtually impossible to maintain.
If you are using reflection a lot in Java, you're probably doing it wrong.
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03-17-2019 , 02:22 PM
Not sure what you mean by doing it wrong. How do you think profilers work? Without reflection these great tools would be impossible.

Something as simple as javadoc uses reflection.
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03-18-2019 , 06:35 AM
From the OOT thread "Best thing you bought recently":

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Originally Posted by coolnout
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03-18-2019 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
From the OOT thread "Best thing you bought recently":
I don't even own these but I've already lost them
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03-18-2019 , 02:01 PM
They've already fallen out of my ear 20 times.
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