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10-21-2018 , 04:44 PM
Woah - I have upvoting privileges now!
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10-21-2018 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Same here. But a couple of times recently I saw incomplete or incorrect answers. So I tried to contribute in the ways I was allowed as a new user. But didn't I follow the rules well enough and got smacked down hard for it.

From reading the meta forums, I think their philosophy is the long term regs are the experts and all they need new users for is to ask questions.


There are some atrociously bad answers on Linux system stuff. I’ve been tempted to make a post but probably would run into worse problems than you because my style isn’t that gentle, lol
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10-21-2018 , 08:59 PM
https://math.stackexchange.com/quest.../126486#126486

Yes, but this is very useful.
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10-22-2018 , 12:51 AM
suzzer99 getting some upvotes on HN I see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18269125
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10-22-2018 , 12:58 AM
I think circa 2003 warcraft 3 forums were the worst community i've ever experienced and participated in. Maybe SO could give it a run for it's money - I often run into pretty obscure problems that I'm trying to solve in a very specific way, by some miracle run into something similar on SO, and see it gets flagged as a duplicate and closed (sometimes with no link to the other post, or the other post is not really the same question because the mod didn't understand what was being asked), and I don't get the answer to my problem. It's happened so many times it stopped bothering me a long time ago.
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10-22-2018 , 01:52 AM
I've been in the process of rewriting all our test scripts because they are terrible and don't work, been rubbing one person REALLY the wrong way - but how else am I supposed to react to a test has been silently failing for weeks, I dive into the script to see wtf is going on, and to test a success in bash, it was grepping stdout for "successful" and one of the outputs on a test was just "success."

i almost felt like i had to explain why grepping output to determine the outcome of a test is awful.
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10-22-2018 , 10:04 AM
I made a post that didnt make it through but SO is a complete waste of time to contribute to.

Which is their loss because there has been numerous times their threads are wrong and the answer lies somewhere else easily google-able, and you can tell of the (however many) people found the correct answer and never updated the stack overflow questions.

Who am I kidding those questions were probably locked.
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10-22-2018 , 10:33 AM
Started leetcode yesterday and did the first problem.

The chart at the end where they show you the runtime performance is really motivating. Went from 30% to 86% to 100%.

Should I test my code in a different place before submitting and risking a failed submission? I will run the code and see if it works for the supplied data, but sometimes fail the more extensive test cases, which I then fix. Would it look better to make my own test cases off site and then submit with more confidence of passing?
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10-22-2018 , 11:12 AM
Nobody looks at your profile. It's just about getting enough practice in to crush interviews
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10-22-2018 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Grue
suzzer99 getting some upvotes on HN I see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18269125
Lol my first "success" ever at HackerNews. I wondered what everyone in meta kept talking about with the Welcoming post. This is it: https://stackoverflow.blog/2018/04/2...hat-to-change/

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Too often, someone comes here to ask a question, only to be told that they did it wrong. They get snarky or condescending comments for not explaining what they’ve tried (that didn’t work). They get an answer… but the answerer gets scolded for “encouraging ‘low-quality’ questions.” They get downvoted, but don’t know why, or called lazy for not speaking English fluently. Or sometimes, everything actually goes well, and they get an answer! So they thank the poster… only to be told that on Stack Overflow, “please” and “thank you” are considered noise. All these experiences add up to making Stack Overflow a very unwelcoming place for far too many.
Nailed it. It sounds like I just copied my post from this. Well at least they're aware of the problem. That makes me feel a lot better. For some reason it just really bothered me. Not so much on a personal level but like how could this great resource be so screwed up.

They're trying to mark my post as a duplicate now, so they can get rid of it: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/quest...ser-experience

Duplicate of this post wondering why new users are so confused about the rules: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/375589/edit
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10-22-2018 , 11:52 AM
Lol there's a survey link on the blog:



Not the best optics there. Might want to just edit the link out. Or just let the survey go nowhere.
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10-22-2018 , 01:46 PM
Lol I didn't notice this reply (which got downvoted so it was greyish) to my HN thread at first:

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If you don't post details of your SO account so that other people can go evaluate your post/comment history for themselves, then this just comes across as evidence-free whingeing, which is the worst kind of whingeing. "I did nothing wrong, honest!" is very easy to say.

I was so close to flagging this post, but I figured I'd be generous and wait to see if you come back and give any information at all.
ChefKiss.jpg - couldn't have summarized the attitude over there any better.

Ok yeah, the whole world seems aware of this and I'm pretty late to the party: https://hackernoon.com/the-decline-o...w-7cb69faa575d

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As such, I decided I’d join the site to see if I could help out. Never before has a website given me a worse first impression.

In an effort to keep the community as clean and orderly as possible, new users have very little rights from the get-go. On paper, this is a pretty nice idea. In practice, it makes it difficult for new users to gain any traction. I read through a number of questions today and had several comments for the original poster. Unfortunately, I couldn’t make my comments, since new users cannot post comments on articles they themselves didn’t write (you have to gain “reputation” in order to gain that privilege). Posting my comment as an “answer” to the original question seemed like bad form, so I didn’t do that.
Heh - I went ahead with the bad from. But I was legitimately trying to help.

Ok NOW this is all making sense:

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On a blog named Michael’s Techbox, an anonymous commenter made the following remark:

The Stack Exchange websites are billed as a “free and open” exchange of information, but in actuality these sites are overrun with a select few members who are just trying to score points, “badges”, and moderator status in attempt to appear as “experts” and gain freelance work.
For example, check out this member’s activity, which instead of contributing helpful technical answers, consists solely of acting like a judge on other people’s answers:
http://stackexchange.com/users/85265...r?tab=activity
source
As I suspected that whole "Show us your Stack Overflow" thing went to their heads. And apparently there could actually be real money at stake, which makes it much worse. It's kind of like how TripAdvisor is mostly ruined for reviews now because everyone games it.

Lol:



Ok enough obsession with SO. Argh.

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10-22-2018 , 04:50 PM
Google needs to start downranking those neckbeards in favor of more helpful sites.
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10-22-2018 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Lol I didn't notice this reply (which got downvoted so it was greyish) to my HN thread at first:



ChefKiss.jpg - couldn't have summarized the attitude over there any better.

Ok yeah, the whole world seems aware of this and I'm pretty late to the party: https://hackernoon.com/the-decline-o...w-7cb69faa575d



Heh - I went ahead with the bad from. But I was legitimately trying to help.

Ok NOW this is all making sense:



As I suspected that whole "Show us your Stack Overflow" thing went to their heads. And apparently there could actually be real money at stake, which makes it much worse. It's kind of like how TripAdvisor is mostly ruined for reviews now because everyone games it.

Lol:



Ok enough obsession with SO. Argh.


That probably summarizes SO experience better than any other possible response.
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10-22-2018 , 05:05 PM
That can't be real
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10-22-2018 , 05:24 PM
Lol these guys man. I seriously need to stop obsessing about this but they're just so unbelievable.

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Originally Posted by suzzer99
FWIW I had no idea how seriously you guys take the rules here. I was trying to help correct a previous answer in the only way I knew how. The bottom line is my answer was in the spirit of getting correct information into the thread (which still hasn't been corrected btw). If I was trolling or being rude then I could see going to answer jail. But maybe in a situation like this there is a way to let the user know what they did wrong and help them to fix it - instead of just delete the answer, which also revokes privileges to answer again. I feel like there has to be a better way. 3 hours ago
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Originally Posted by Some SO Fuhrer
If you were just trolling the consequences would have been much more severe, and you wouldn't have had nearly as many warnings. You had numerous changes to correct your behavior, and warnings not to continue engaging in the behavior, which you repeatedly ignored. It took you being banned from answering to get you to stop doing something you knew you shouldn't have done. That you didn't stop short of that showed it to actually be a necessary step. – Servy 3 hours ago
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
What are you talking about? I got no warnings, no notifications and I had no idea why I was banned from answering. Only after making posts in the meta forum did I start searching around and found the deleted answers tab. Before that I thought it was because of my screenshot answer where the mod clearly had no idea what I was trying to show. I still have no idea if that's why, since SO specifically does not tell you what you did wrong. And whew thank goodness I still get to keep this 17 rep account in answer jail. Glad I didn't lose that to more severe consequences. o_O

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10-22-2018 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
That can't be real
It's clearly not real - "Timothy Goatse" lol - but excellent satire. See also "How can I use JavaScript to parse some HTML using Regex" lmao, and the other finely crafted "related" questions

Last edited by _dave_; 10-22-2018 at 05:59 PM. Reason: You may need to be of a certain internet vintage to get that, if you don't then consider yourself lucky and do not google!
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10-22-2018 , 06:06 PM
Here's one that is real:



My deleted answer just says to check the help center to figure out why it was deleted.

Dammit - I wasn't even going to get into this all day. I was done. And then Grue had to point out my first and only HackerNews success story. And now I'm having an anxiety attack.

I've been trying not to do my usual and gain 20-30 lbs. at a new job (happens every time). So I'm dieting which stresses me out. I thought I was doing fine though, felt great - and then SO just triggered all the stress out. Like some unstable solution that looks fine, but you tap it and it changes phases.

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10-22-2018 , 06:16 PM
Oh damn... company is expecting me to pay for everything up front and get reimbursed. Hopefully it doesn't end in disaster.
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10-22-2018 , 06:25 PM
How reputable is this company?
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10-22-2018 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
How reputable is this company?
It's not a household name like Amazon, Microsoft, etc. They may be very well recognized in their niche industry though. So in other words, no more reputable than an average company.
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10-22-2018 , 06:42 PM
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Oh damn... company is expecting me to pay for everything up front and get reimbursed. Hopefully it doesn't end in disaster.
Assuming you have no prior relationship with them there's no way I'd agree to that.
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10-22-2018 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
1. Build react app using npx create-react-app .
2. Run npm start.
3. Computer goes crazy, browser windows pop up.
4. Fan is now running full blast to support my hello world react app.
5. Kill silly tiny little react demo server, fan calms down.

You crazy kids and your tools and scripts. There's gonna be tools bootcamps where you have to spend a year before you can even start to code.

Learning webpack will be like the old-school blacksmith apprentice phase. You work the bellows for 2 years, then maybe I'll let you pound some iron.
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It's very likely the animated spinning SVG on the demo page and nothing to do with Node, React, Webpack etc.
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
The whole app is just the App.js from this issue: https://github.com/aws-amplify/amplify-js/issues/1386
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Fair enough, in that case I don't have any guesses - take a look at what's going on with top or whatever command shows cpu usage on your system. With the default output of create-react-app, I have experienced very high cpu usage from the mentioned spinning SVG animation, likely because Firefox default was/is GPU acceleration disabled IIRC.

I think "replaced all the application code with different code that does something else" is a kind of important "step 1.5" to not mention when listing the sequence of events leading up to a problem, tbh.
FWIW - I think I found the culprit on this. SublimeText3 was showing (and thus trying to index) the node_modules folder in the sidebar view. Stack Overflow to the rescue lol - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...ng-it/40865837

I do actually play around in node_modules and I just needed to last week to debug a weird Cognito issue I couldn't figure out. But I can always drag the folder into the sidebar separately.
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10-22-2018 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Craggoo
It's not a household name like Amazon, Microsoft, etc. They may be very well recognized in their niche industry though. So in other words, no more reputable than an average company.
Thanks but no thanks.
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10-22-2018 , 08:21 PM
Think I'll just have to take the chance they decide to reneg on their word. I've managed to secure an initial in-person interview with a technical recruiter @ Amazon during the time I'm going to be in Seattle. Pretty good luck imo.
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