This - I wouldn't judge the whole program by this pre-bootcamp thing.

i thought i'd done more of odin's ruby track. Looks like i stalled in the files and serialization section and went on to the rails portion. Since so much of codeeval relies on using files, probably be a good idea to get some experience in that, even if there are ways around that

Not that it matters but logarithms are just the inverse function of exponentiation.

Given the equation b^x = y the logarithm of y in base b will be x and is usually written as:

log sub b y = x

If the base isn't given then it's assumed 10 is the base.

LN is the natural logarithmic function and always corresponds to a base of the mathematical constant e.

**The more you know**

How do you know what O(log n) is, without knowing what log means? It's a genuine question, even though I guess it sounds a little accusatory

CtCI does a real good job explaining it.

Also so does the Internet.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2...n-mean-exactly

If you understand the explanations on that page, then I'd argue that you know what log() means.

not to interrupt this riveting conversation...

the assessment was out of 19 points total, 18 was a passing grade (94%? wtf?)

average score was < half the passing grade, and the mode was 0. Woof.

I'm a little confused about this thing, though, because this first one, the harder of the two, is supposed to 'not count'. However, after passing the assessment, they said my application is under review and I should have an answer by wednesday, but not what the answer would be about.

:confused_bear:

Most people got a ****ing 0?

To be fair, if practically everyone in the class got different scores it would only take two morons for the class to have a mode of 0. Without more info, we can't read anything into a class having a failing score as the mode imo.

100 people, 19 possible scores, average of 7 or 8, you do the math

Never once spoke to someone who knew what a MOOC was. You can infer the value of paying for the cert from that.

And from a practical standpoint, the single most important thing to understand about logarithmic functions is that they grow so ridiculously slowly. Like you can think of the most absurdly large input size ever and log of that is gonna be like 2-digit value with any reasonable base. This is probably the single worst understood thing about logarithmic functions as far as programmers are concerned - a lot of them tend to think that going from O(log n) to O(1) or O(n log n) to O(n) is a big difference - it's not. Similarly, because O(n log n) is between O(n^2) and O(n) so there's a tendency to think that these are like similar sized steps but again, no - going from O(n) to O(n log n) is not a huge deal at all but going from O(n log n) to O(n^2) is a complete and utter disaster if you have a large input.

There is a week by week curriculum of their website.

Good timing

I keep seeing people in the prep slack channel talking about being conditionally approved into the full program (don't think these are jump start people), but no one seems to know what that means.

Thoughts from our a/A grads?

To be fair to the people who subscribed to this thread to follow the programming bootcamp discussion please take the log base discussion (or whatever it is I'm ignoring) to its own thread.

Perhaps the moderator can move the discussion on logarithms to a separate thread.

/dev/null maybe

Anything is better than letting this discussion continue.

I've moved many logarithm posts to a new thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...ssion-1601177/

Please use that thread for continued discussion on the subject if desired.

And I was just about to link to the Ren and Stimpy log commercial.

May the kind and benevolent lord xenu have mercy on your soul, dave

lol sorry guys, couldn't help myself

And really good job leaving this one here (actually somehow duplicating this one into both threads, didn't know that was possible) - I thought this was actually fairly important - thanks!

Agreed. Thanks for leaving candy's most factually incorrect post here for posterity.

Don't start