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Old 06-11-2020, 05:03 PM   #1
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Career transition - where do I go from here?

Hello all.


About me:

-12 year poker pro. I've done alright, but won't be set up for retirement any time soon and I don't like the direction poker is headed.

-33yo, live in USA

-B.A. in economics from a good public university (2012). pretty blank resume besides that. my last non-poker job was in high school.

-passion for data science and coding in general

I have spent the past month or so taking free online courses (SQL, Python), working through a data science e-book, practicing on codewars.com, and generally messing around importing, cleaning, and plotting data.

I have the foundations I need for statistics and linear algebra, but there's a lot of learning to do. Strong understanding of statistics is what separates good data scientists from not-good data scientists.

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I would like to eventually land an entry-level data scientist position somewhere, but I know I'm not there yet. Here are some paths I'm considering:

A. Continue learning on my own. Do my own little projects. Put them on Github and use that as a 'portfolio'. Try some Kaggle competitions. Get my hard skills to a place where I could hopefully impress in an interview.

B. Enroll in a data science bootcamp or something like Lambda School or Launch School. I read mixed reviews about these online. Anyone have experience?

C. Start off aiming for a data analyst (Excel, Tableau, etc.) role to get my feet wet and get used to being in the workforce. Keep studying on the side. Perhaps an employer will help pay for a Masters.

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I could see any combination of the 3 of these being a reasonable approach.

Lastly, if anyone has experience hiring, I'd love to know what the most important criteria are for getting my resume seen and getting an interview.
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Old 06-11-2020, 05:34 PM   #2
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Re: Career transition - where do I go from here?

Hi,

I will address in sections - feel free to reach out to me privately if you need further suggestions

What:
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0) -12 year poker pro. I've done alright,
1) pretty blank resume besides that. my last non-poker job was in high school. -passion for data science and coding in general
2)land an entry-level data scientist position
1) is a handicap but 2) is a great opportunity given covid times - so you need not worry

why:

use your past experience + current = map the future with target org

data science + poker - try to land up a position in one of the poker clients, solver, HUD companies - or coaching companies like upswing, rio etc

How:
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if anyone has experience hiring, I'd love to know what the most important criteria are for getting my resume seen and getting an interview.
Referrals, referrals, referrals - esp in covid times - see if you can get networked via 2+2 based on your activity here

Things to do:
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Enroll in a data science bootcamp
data science:
Pay and Enroll in Johns Hopkins data science specialization in Coursera (https://www.coursera.org/specializat...u-data-science)
academics love R, industry loves Python - See if you can bridge both

without fail read these books:
https://www.amazon.com/Data-Science-.../dp/1449361323

https://www.amazon.com/Storytelling-...s=books&sr=1-1

resume/career change:
get this book - https://www.amazon.com/What-Color-Yo.../dp/198485657X
Check Liz Ryan's blog posts - https://www.forbes.com/sites/lizryan.../#3b290237677e
https://matchexecutive.com.au/ten-wa...away-liz-ryan/
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Old 06-11-2020, 07:23 PM   #3
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Re: Career transition - where do I go from here?

thanks for the quick reply. I'll check out some of those books.

If I move back to my hometown area next spring I'll have a good network for potential referrals. My current location is a big market, but I don't have as many connections.
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Old 06-11-2020, 08:02 PM   #4
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thanks for the quick reply. I'll check out some of those books.

If I move back to my hometown area next spring I'll have a good network for potential referrals. My current location is a big market, but I don't have as many connections.
START NOW! DO NOT WAIT

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lizryan.../#71925a2f79a1

https://www.job-hunt.org/job-search-...-network.shtml

https://www.job-hunt.org/job-search-...-network.shtml
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:03 AM   #5
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Re: Career transition - where do I go from here?

Hey I was in a pretty similar spot, I would recommend A+B w/ one of the more selective bootcamps (i.e., a bootcamp that requires some amount of programming experience to begin with, not lambda school) if I could do it over again.

Feel free to PM me if you wanna chat more.
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Old 09-19-2020, 04:20 PM   #6
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Re: Career transition - where do I go from here?

Hey few months later any update OP?

I think were roughly the same ago, I've bounced back and forth a bunch of times via poker/programmer as income over last 10 years interested how things have played out.
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Old 09-22-2020, 01:34 PM   #7
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Re: Career transition - where do I go from here?

Recently made career transition to data science. More details in this thread: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...areer-1553642/

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Old 10-15-2020, 03:58 PM   #8
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Hey few months later any update OP?
I signed an offer for a data engineer position a couple weeks ago and I'll probably start in the next few weeks. I'm lucky I have some connections from poker -- one of them is taking a chance on me doing data stuff for his IT company.


Things I've started picking up so far: Linux, Python, MySQL, SQLite, Docker, AWS VMs, version control, web scraping.

I want to try handling some bigger data soon with Pyspark, Kubernetes, steaming data sources.

What has really struck me is how in the big picture of using data to improve business, building and tuning models is an insanely small part of the work. Data science is the sexy buzzword career, but software development, operations, data engineering, cloud solutions, UX and more all need more attention in the grand scheme of things.

It's easy to program in Python and SQL, but the bulk of my time has been spent trying to understand how and why everything fits together.
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Old 10-17-2020, 07:41 PM   #9
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correction...it's not easy to program well in Python and SQL, but it has been easy for me to get to the point where I can get things done.

I recommend leetcode -- I try to do problems every day.
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