Husker, did you watch the first two minutes of the video that I posted?
Dr. Raul Hilberg, according to wikipedia, was considered the preeminent scholar on the holocaust. But I don't think you need wikipedia to tell you this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raul_Hilberg
In a trial in Canada against Ernst Zundel, he admitted under oath in a court of law that Hitler's order to exterminate the Jews was verbal, therefore no one knows the exact wording. "It's one of the gaps in history" he said.
"There is no single report in existence of gas chambers in Nazi concentration camps" is something else he admitted - under oath.
Can you comment of this?
To me personally, to read these things is quite shocking and provides motivation to keep digging on this subject. As Zundel's laywer Doug Christie said, he's "out to prove that Zundel has reason to question the widely accepted beliefs about the holocaust." I think what I've uncovered is sufficient reason to continue to explore/question this issue.
You say the documents exist. Hilberg, the Holocaust expert, says it was a verbal order, thus no one knows. Could you provide some evidence to corroborate your claims?
As for the horror photo's shown of the emaciated bodies from concentration camps, society was shown pictures and told "see, proof of all the atrocities". In days long ago when my critical thinking skills were underdeveloped, I believed what they said, without question. In reality, those photo's alone don't prove gas chambers existed. Unfortunately, when citizens are shown a gruesome photo and told by authority figures what
lies behind the picture, they are often accepted unquestioningly. They are in fact more synonymous with starvation and decease caused by the captors losing a war and thus losing control and being incapable of properly caring for it's prisioners.
An excerpt from an article on the civil war prisoners of war camps is universal, IMO.
"the conventional assessment has viewed conditions at these prisons as unfortunate but unavoidable developments of war--a reflection more of the
uncontrollable and inhumane nature of war in general, rather than a conscious and intentional expression of man's inhumanity to man. According to this explanation, the North was not to blame for conditions at places like Camp Douglas; the Dix-Hill cartel broke down because of the South's refusal to exchange black Union soldiers as equals, which in turn transformed the North's prisons into overcrowded incubators of death. Likewise, the South cannot be blamed for conditions at Andersonville or elsewhere; the starving Confederacy could barely feed its own soldiers in the field, much less a growing population of enemy prisoners."
http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=12466
Note in the video how Obama tells a whopper of a lie about his uncle liberating a concentration camp. The gall of people to make up lies on the spot, especially those in positions of immense power, is very disturbing. It shows how easy it is for others to jump on board with a lie of their own.
The only evidence of such atrocities is personal accounts. Unfortunately, those aren't enough IMO, considering the fallacies of humanity.
"1 in 4 people will experience some kind of mental health problem in the course of a year."
http://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/help-...th-statistics/
An estimated 1-3% of the population are sociopaths. They have no problem creating elaborate lies, as well as carrying them on and on and on. Their game is to lure as many people as possible into believing their lies. Unfortunately, these people can easily shape history. Normal people believe them because normal people think "why would someone lie about such things? I would never lie about such things!"
And who knows what other mental health problems exist that create the need in people to create elaborate lies, often due to an excessive need for attention. Many people, including Obama, have been caught lying about their Holocaust experience. If you want proof, I'll provide it. Otherwise, the information is out there.
As far as the capability of humans to create such grand lies, look at those who believe they've been abducted by aliens and brought aboard a space ship or to another planet. There are thousands of these people.
Why should the capacity of humans to lie be limited to alien abductions and not other events?
Here is more evidence for the capability for humans to lie, especially when there is a politcal motivation behind it. From an article about concentration camp prisoners in the civil war of America....
"Gillispie contends that the American political climate of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, when Northerners were constantly “waving the bloody shirt” and Confederate sympathizers were crafting the Lost Cause mythos, led to
both sides’ soldiers embellishing and exaggerating their wartime POW experiences, making them sound far worse than they actually were."
http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=12466
The political motivation for the Holocaust was the creation of Israel, as well as the constant expansion, financial payments (from Germany and support from the USA) and protection. Many Jews all over the world to this day still receive monthly cheques from Germany for reparations. Oddly enough, a Jewish scholar, Norman Finkelstein, wrote a book critiquing Jews for being deceitful about the Holocaust in order to profit from it. There's a "funny" Jewish saying that goes "there's no business like Shoah Business." Shoah is a word for the Holocaust. Many have remarked that this phrase is inappropriate and points to a callousness and lack of empathy for something so sacred to Jews. I couldn't agree more.
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