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03-28-2012 , 07:59 PM
Operation Chariot, or the St Nazaire Raid, took place on 28th March 1942. Fearing the Germans would dispatch large warships to destroy the Atlantic convoys that were vital lines of food and vital goods to allow Britain to keep fighting the Germans, the British realised that only one Atlantic dock was a candidate for repairs of such ships - in the port of St Nazaire.

Bombing was considered but then discarded, as it was realised it would have a significant toll of civilian casualties. A plan was hatched to disguise a ship as German, but this ship was loaded with commandos and explosives - a 4 and a half ton bomb, to be exact. The mission was to get the ship to dock, and then the commandos would create mayhem to distract attention until the bomb detonated. There were 622 men, sailing into a port containing 5,000 Germans.

The disguised ship would sail up six miles up the Loire estuary, past 80 German emplacements, towards the dock.

They were discovered part way up the estuary, but managed to drive the ship through the gates of the port, and then disembark to fight and lay explosives.

One commando leading a small team was tasked with blowing up one of the winding houses in the port. The door was locked, and he pulled his .45 to shoot the lock, but the ricochet barely missed one of his corporals. The corporal said: "You know, sir, when I came on this raid, I was quite prepared to get murdered by Adolf Hitler, but not by you, sir", and then pulled out a mallet and smashed through the lock.

After laying their explosives and destroying many of the targets, the commandos began to move back to the small craft that had accompanied the disguised ship, which was the planned escape route. Unfortunately the early detection by the Germans had created a firefight and much tracer and incendiary fire, and the commandos saw the water filled with burning boats.

Once it was realised that escape by boats was not possible, three orders were issued:

To do our best to get back to England;
Not to surrender until all our ammunition is exhausted;
Not to surrender at all if we can help it.

The commandos started out towards the Spanish border - but and many were captured after their ammo was expended, or killed. The captured survivors were aware the ship had not detonated, and wondered whether the mission had failed.

Just before midday, once all the troops had either been killed in action, captured, or escaped, the ship exploded. The Germans hadn't realised it was rigged with a bomb. The prisoners of war let up a loud cheer.

The raid has since been called The Greatest Raid of All.

The dock was knocked out for the rest of the war, and the Tirpitz never got into the Atlantic. She was bombed and capsized by the RAF in a Norwegian fjord on 12 November 1944 during Operation Catechism.

Nearly 170 British servicemen were killed. 5 Victoria Crosses were awarded for the operation and a total of 89 honours were bestowed - more honours in a shorter time than for any other battle during the war. Many are buried in the 'English Cemetery' a few miles along the coast from the scene of the raid.

Bob Montgomery, who was in charge of the commando demolition teams, said this about it: "Because it was a crazy idea, it was likely to succeed. It's something we British do. It may not seem part of our character. But it is up our sleeve."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Nazaire_Raid

Last edited by diebitter; 03-28-2012 at 08:10 PM.
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04-03-2012 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by diebitter
Operation Chariot, or the St Nazaire Raid, took place on 28th March 1942. Fearing the Germans would dispatch large warships to destroy the Atlantic convoys that were vital lines of food and vital goods to allow Britain to keep fighting the Germans, the British realised that only one Atlantic dock was a candidate for repairs of such ships - in the port of St Nazaire.

Bombing was considered but then discarded, as it was realised it would have a significant toll of civilian casualties. A plan was hatched to disguise a ship as German, but this ship was loaded with commandos and explosives - a 4 and a half ton bomb, to be exact. The mission was to get the ship to dock, and then the commandos would create mayhem to distract attention until the bomb detonated. There were 622 men, sailing into a port containing 5,000 Germans.

The disguised ship would sail up six miles up the Loire estuary, past 80 German emplacements, towards the dock.

They were discovered part way up the estuary, but managed to drive the ship through the gates of the port, and then disembark to fight and lay explosives.

One commando leading a small team was tasked with blowing up one of the winding houses in the port. The door was locked, and he pulled his .45 to shoot the lock, but the ricochet barely missed one of his corporals. The corporal said: "You know, sir, when I came on this raid, I was quite prepared to get murdered by Adolf Hitler, but not by you, sir", and then pulled out a mallet and smashed through the lock.

After laying their explosives and destroying many of the targets, the commandos began to move back to the small craft that had accompanied the disguised ship, which was the planned escape route. Unfortunately the early detection by the Germans had created a firefight and much tracer and incendiary fire, and the commandos saw the water filled with burning boats.

Once it was realised that escape by boats was not possible, three orders were issued:

To do our best to get back to England;
Not to surrender until all our ammunition is exhausted;
Not to surrender at all if we can help it.

The commandos started out towards the Spanish border - but and many were captured after their ammo was expended, or killed. The captured survivors were aware the ship had not detonated, and wondered whether the mission had failed.

Just before midday, once all the troops had either been killed in action, captured, or escaped, the ship exploded. The Germans hadn't realised it was rigged with a bomb. The prisoners of war let up a loud cheer.

The raid has since been called The Greatest Raid of All.

The dock was knocked out for the rest of the war, and the Tirpitz never got into the Atlantic. She was bombed and capsized by the RAF in a Norwegian fjord on 12 November 1944 during Operation Catechism.

Nearly 170 British servicemen were killed. 5 Victoria Crosses were awarded for the operation and a total of 89 honours were bestowed - more honours in a shorter time than for any other battle during the war. Many are buried in the 'English Cemetery' a few miles along the coast from the scene of the raid.

Bob Montgomery, who was in charge of the commando demolition teams, said this about it: "Because it was a crazy idea, it was likely to succeed. It's something we British do. It may not seem part of our character. But it is up our sleeve."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Nazaire_Raid
Solid story, i always wondered why the Tirpitz had so little action in during 42-43. Im surprised i had not heard this story in the past. good post Diebitter.
Was the tirpitz the same class as the Kriegsmarine Bismarck? Because if so, thats one hell of an explosion the boat must have done in order to damage a ship of that size.
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04-03-2012 , 03:26 PM
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Solid story, i always wondered why the Tirpitz had so little action in during 42-43. Im surprised i had not heard this story in the past. good post Diebitter.
Was the tirpitz the same class as the Kriegsmarine Bismarck? Because if so, thats one hell of an explosion the boat must have done in order to damage a ship of that size.
Yes to the bolded. The Campbelltown didnt damage the Tirpitz itself though, it only put the drydock out of service for the rest of the war. That was very important however as St Nazaire's drydock was the only one capable of performing repairs on ships the size of the Tirpitz on the french west coast (i.e. with much easier access to the supply routes over the atlantic than any other german-controlled port).

In Buchheim's book 'Die Festung' there's an anecdote about this raid, told by a submarine captain stationed in St Nazaire (the same one from 'Das Boot'): The day after the raid a party of German submarine captains and other highranking officers was visiting the remains of the Campbelltown. The charges that were still on board the ship, unbeknownst to the Germans, were set to explode at 12:00 and would have possibly killed that whole party had they not been called to lunch at 11:30, the punchline being that the British could have knocked out a great part of the brass that had and would go on to give them great headaches (the sub captains) if not for the punctuality of the Germans.

Interestingly the wikipedia link says the direct opposite ('A party of 40 senior German officers and civilians who were on a tour of the ship were killed.') but the citation is a dead link. Hard to say what's the truth here, Buchheim's book is supposed to be factual but there was a lot of controversy at its release, though more about the general tone and the unprovable claims.
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04-03-2012 , 04:39 PM
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In Buchheim's book 'Die Festung' there's an anecdote about this raid, told by a submarine captain stationed in St Nazaire (the same one from 'Das Boot'): The day after the raid a party of German submarine captains and other highranking officers was visiting the remains of the Campbelltown. The charges that were still on board the ship, unbeknownst to the Germans, were set to explode at 12:00 and would have possibly killed that whole party had they not been called to lunch at 11:30, the punchline being that the British could have knocked out a great part of the brass that had and would go on to give them great headaches (the sub captains) if not for the punctuality of the Germans.

Interestingly the wikipedia link says the direct opposite ('A party of 40 senior German officers and civilians who were on a tour of the ship were killed.') but the citation is a dead link. Hard to say what's the truth here, Buchheim's book is supposed to be factual but there was a lot of controversy at its release, though more about the general tone and the unprovable claims.
IIRC, the pencil fuses were not reliable for a specific time, but were *very* reliable to go off eventually. The day following the raid, POWs were actually taken on board the ship, yet they kept utterly silent in regard to the impending explosion. The explosions went off an hour or two after the expected time, but they weren't set to any clock.
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04-03-2012 , 06:05 PM
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IIRC, the pencil fuses were not reliable for a specific time, but were *very* reliable to go off eventually. The day following the raid, POWs were actually taken on board the ship, yet they kept utterly silent in regard to the impending explosion. The explosions went off an hour or two after the expected time, but they weren't set to any clock.
I just looked up that anecdote (not an easy task finding it in a book of 1500 pages ); i misremembered a few details but got the gist of it right. It's really more of an entertaining anecdote rather than an exact recount though, especially concerning what i called the punchline (and your objection, obviously).

Regarding the discrepancy between what i recalled from the book and wikipedia, Buchheim too writes that 40 officers were killed by the delayed blast but explicitly states that they were Army (as opposed to Navy) officers; thus this problem has vanished into thin air.
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04-03-2012 , 06:27 PM
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The day following the raid, POWs were actually taken on board the ship, yet they kept utterly silent in regard to the impending explosion.
Wow, now that I didn't know.
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04-04-2012 , 07:44 PM
Good post! Let's add another famous raid (or series of raids) that was also very important to the WWII effort; the sabotage of the heavy water plant in Norway:


Wiki article (I will assume this is relatively accurate, if fits with what I have previously read about this famous raid(s))

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegi...water_sabotage

From above link:

The Norwegian heavy water sabotage was a series of actions undertaken by Norwegian saboteurs during World War II to prevent the German nuclear energy project from acquiring heavy water (deuterium oxide), which could be used to produce nuclear weapons. In 1934, at Vemork, Norsk Hydro built the first commercial plant capable of producing heavy water as a byproduct of fertilizer production. It had a capacity of 12 t (13 short tons) per year. During World War II, the Allies decided to remove the heavy water supply and destroy the heavy water plant in order to inhibit the Nazi development of nuclear weapons. Raids were aimed at the 60-MW Vemork power station at the Rjukan waterfall in Telemark, Norway.

Prior to the German invasion of Norway on 9 April 1940, the Deuxième Bureau (French military intelligence) removed 185 kg (408 lb) of heavy water from the plant in Vemork in then-neutral Norway. The plant′s managing director, Aubert, agreed to loan the heavy water to France for the duration of the war. The French transported it secretly to Oslo, to Perth, Scotland, and then to France. The plant remained capable of producing heavy water.

The Allies remained concerned that the occupation forces would use the facility to produce more heavy water for their weapons programme. Between 1940 and 1944, a sequence of sabotage actions, by the Norwegian resistance movement—as well as Allied bombing—ensured the destruction of the plant and the loss of the heavy water produced. These operations—codenamed "Grouse," "Freshman," and "Gunnerside"—finally managed to knock the plant out of production in early 1943.

In Operation Grouse, the British Special Operations Executive (SOE) successfully placed four Norwegian nationals as an advance team in the region of the Hardanger Plateau above the plant. Later in 1942 the unsuccessful Operation Freshman was mounted by British paratroopers; they were to rendezvous with the Norwegians of Operation Grouse and proceed to Vemork. This attempt failed when the military gliders crashed short of their destination, as did one of the tugs, a Halifax bomber. The other Halifax returned to base, but all the other participants were killed in the crashes or captured, interrogated, and executed by the Gestapo.

In 1943, a team of SOE-trained Norwegian commandos succeeded in destroying the production facility with a second attempt, Operation Gunnerside. Operation Gunnerside was later evaluated by SOE as the most successful act of sabotage in all of World War II.

These actions were followed by Allied bombing raids. The Germans elected to cease operation and remove the remaining heavy water to Germany. Norwegian resistance forces sank the ferry, SF Hydro, on Lake Tinnsjø, preventing the heavy water from being removed.

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-Zeno


http://english.turkcebilgi.com/Operation+Gunnerside

From above link:


Operation Gunnerside

British authorities were aware of the "success" of the Grouse team, and decided to mount another operation in concert with them. By this time the original Grouse team were being referred to as Swallow. On the night of 16th February 1943, in Operation Gunnerside (named after a village and the moor where the Hambro Family and Sir Charles Hambro, the head of SOE, used to shoot grouse), an additional six Norwegian commandos were dropped by parachute by a Halifax bomber of 138 Squadron from RAF Tempsford. They were successful in landing, and encountered the Swallow team after a few days of searching. The combined team made final preparations for their assault, which was to take place on the night of 27 February.

Supplies required by the commandos were dropped with them in special CLE containers. (One of these was buried in the snow by a Norwegian patriot to hide it from the Germans; he later recovered it and in August 1976 handed it over to an officer of the (British) Army Air Corps, who were exercising in the area. The container was brought back to England and is now on display at the Airborne Museum at Aldershot.)

Following the failed Freshman attempt, mines, floodlights and additional guards were set around the plant. Whilst the mines and lights remained in place, security of the actual plant had slackened somewhat over the winter months. However, the single 75-metre bridge spanning the deep ravine, 200 metres above the River Maan, was fully guarded.

The force elected to descend into the ravine, ford the icy river and climb the steep hill on the far side. The winter river level was very low, and on the far side, where the ground leveled, they followed a single railway track straight into the plant area without encountering any guards. Even before Grouse landed in Norway, SOE had a Norwegian agent within the plant who supplied detailed plans and schedule information. The demolition party used this information to enter the main basement by a cable tunnel and through a window. Inside the plant the only person they came across was the Norwegian caretaker (Johansen), who was very willing to cooperate with them.

The saboteurs then placed explosive charges on the heavy water electrolysis chambers, and attached a fuse allowing sufficient time for their escape. A British submachine gun was purposely left behind to indicate that this was the work of British forces and not of the local resistance, in order to alleviate reprisals. A surreal episode ensued when fuses were about to be lit: The caretaker was worried about his spectacles which were lying somewhere in the room (during the war new glasses were nearly impossible to acquire). A frantic search for the caretaker's spectacles ensued, they were found - and the fuses lit! The explosive charges detonated, destroying the electrolysis chambers.

All ten commandos made good their escape whereafter six of them skied 400 kilometres to Sweden and four remained in Norway for further work with the resistance. The Vemork plant was restored by April and SOE concluded that a repeat raid would be extremely difficult, as German security now was very considerable. In November the plant was attacked by a massed daylight bombing raid of 143 B-17 bombers dropping 711 bombs, of which at least 600 missed the plant. The damage, however, was quite extensive; the reason for the original ground assault a year earlier was that the available alternative of night bombing was considered unrealistic at that time.

^^^^

Last edited by Zeno; 04-04-2012 at 07:52 PM. Reason: added info
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06-12-2012 , 08:45 PM
Here is a link to an hour long documentary about the St. Nazaire Raid. It's done by the BBC and Jeremy Clarkson does the commentary. Some good stuff in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgF0R4dhUqk
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06-18-2012 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by diebitter
Bob Montgomery, who was in charge of the commando demolition teams, said this about it: "Because it was a crazy idea, it was likely to succeed. It's something we British do. It may not seem part of our character. But it is up our sleeve."
I love this statement, especially the final part.
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06-24-2012 , 12:27 PM
Very interesting post, Diebitter. I had never heard of this raid, and I consider myself pretty well read on WWII. One minor quibble: You don't "drive the ship"...you sail the ship, even ships that have no sails!
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06-24-2012 , 12:45 PM
I meant drive as in drive a nail in with a hammer, but I see your point
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03-27-2014 , 08:30 PM
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