Wow, I was just levelling.

so was Brusier

Question.
I used to play some 30-60 and 50-100 LHE on UB and I do think I remember playing against some of the superuser screen names that were published. Absence of HH's doesn't make me sure, though, but what I do remember is this:

Around October 2007 I got a phone call from (someone claiming to be) some kind of UB VIP account manager or something. He would give me a number of Sunday major tournament tickets, if I would redeposit a reasonable amount to start playing cashgames again.
I ended up depositing like $10k and lost it all within a couple of hours, never saw my chips disappear so fast. Played two of those Sundays for free, didn't bother to e-mail the guy to ask for the rest. It's now easy to say that I felt cheated, but it definitely tilted me.
Haven't played there since.

I never thought of it much, just figured I was playing really bad, but with this whole story now in mind, it got me thinking that maybe a lot more people from that company were in on the cheating, if 'VIP representatives' were contacting certain players to lure them into redepositing. Don't think it's that far fetched.

Anyone else got a call like that?

They call people who haven't played in a while all the time. They still do this.

Just got this email:

Yea me too for 162$. Anyone get anything significant?

I got mine sent a long time ago, but they are in some format that is not recognized by holdem manager.

I would like to import them, anyone been able to do so?

Not sure what to do with hh excel files UB sends, they seem totally useless. If there is a way to get them imported into HEM let me know too.

You used to be able to just export each Excel sheet as a text file and then import those.

So who got arrested ?

No one. And still more and more Pro Players want to represent them for money nowadays like nothing had ever even happen.

Holy **** ****!

those cheaters were very greedy and clumsy
It now seems to me that there s nothing preventing something like this from happening again if cheaters take adequate precautions: not exceeding 10BB/100 using several accounts?

Well, if you're concerned about this, play on a proper site with proper regulation.

What sites would that be?

Even there have been so many scandals people still think that all the sites not found quilty yet must be clean. How the **** can that be?

The only regulation that would make a difference is players boycotting UB and AP. Since that hasn't happened to a large degree then this type of scandal is set to repeat eventually.

It's expected that some people will try anything to scam $ when there is plenty to be scammed so collusion and other cheating will always happen. Poker sites should of course put in great efforts to stop this but insiders fleecing you is time to withdraw all your money and find better site and never go back.

Say you go into a McDonalds. A few of the employees get together, poison your burger with crazy knockout pills, and steal your wallet while you're out. Now say the story comes out, that McDonalds franchise gets sold to somebody else who hires new employees. The new manager obviously puts in strict new rules so that kind of thing won't happen again. If you go back there, you're not gonna get poisoned and robbed anymore, but it's certainly understandable if you don't want to go back.

UB has new management, new rules, new employees, new network, new card randomizers etc. They've had some issues for sure but my God! It's new people now! The criminals are gone! It's not like the site is some dude running a shell game. It was a corrupt business, now those people are gone.

Don't play on the site if you don't want to. Most highstakes players Have stayed away and nobody blames them. But it's not like it's dangerous to play there still. Staying away from the site because of something OTHER people did...I just do not understand.

This is a highly debated topic on these forums, and nobody can prove these claims one way or another. Stating it so matter-of-factly, when you really don't know **** about UB management, just demonstrates your inability to think for yourself.

I had no idea any of that stuff was up for debate. There is a different ownership group, there is new management, there is no more Rusty "Abs" Hamilton...what's the debate?
As for inability to think for myself...It sounds like you disagree with what I said and are reaching for some insult to send my way. Fair enough, but I don't see how thinking for myself is proved or disproved either way. I am overweight if you wanna go with that one tho.

+1

Having never met him, I don't know that David Sklansky has actually written any of the poker books attributed to him. Using the info at hand, I can make that assumption tho. Oops...not thinking for myself again.

+1

Define "irony".

Anyway, demonstrated ability to think for one's self by:
using words put together into sentences to form semi-coherent thoughts > typing "+1".

It honestly sounds like it's you guys that don't know what you're talking about...and the always-factual anti-UB tone of 2+2 has formed your opinion for you. By no means do I think that 2+2 should NOT be anti-UB, but it's noticeable. These last few posts actually kinda serve as a perfect example. I post something that's not anti-UB, and get the responses: "That's debatable; therefore, you can't think for yourself" +1 +1 +1 +1 zzzzzzzz.

Anyway, unless there's some actual substance somebody'd like to post vs just "+1", I'm done. I have no problem admitting I'm wrong with cause. Til then...

I opened an ultimate bet account about a month ago and bought in for $100. After about a week I had around $575-580 and they closed my account saying it was fraud. They told me that they were going to confiscate my money and refund the original buy in. On what were they basing this on? They said there were multiple users with my name. Umm...hello. Jin Kim? So I emailed them and tried to talk to them for this month and they just copy and pasted the same email response, saying your in violation, your account is fraud. Finally I talked to a person that was able to help me out and they asked for scanned ID, Utilities, etc etc (which they obviously should have done earlier). Then I got an email today saying, my account was reopened. I tried to login, but no! still not open. I called the department again and they said it was a mistake and it's still underinvestigation. So I asked them who can I complain to about the security department and the ******ed customer service they give, and they tell me to email security. WTF!!!!!!! I've yet to receive my money or any kind of compensation, let alone any awknowledgement of their mistake.

They are known for terrible support with this kinda thing. So's FTP for that matter, but I sympathize.