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05-06-2010 , 11:44 PM

#26

scratchy1

adept

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 708

So umm what exactly were tableratings doing to come across this vulnerability. Were they tipped off or doing their own exploration of some suspicious players on UB?

05-06-2010 , 11:52 PM

#27

yowhatsup

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,992

Quote:

Originally Posted by Actionjunkie

At some point don't people deserve to get robbed if they play at AP/UB??

No matter how I feel about people who continue to support that site, nobody deserves to get robbed. Yes they are supporting scum and taking an unnecessary risk leaving themselves open to getting robbed, but no they don't deserve it.

I do feel that if there ever was another super user scandal/suspicion the people who were important in uncovering the first one should not have to rush and waste spend their free time investigating again. Instead those who do continue to play should be left on their own to figure it out.

05-07-2010 , 12:11 AM

#28

Moonshine

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,446

oh wow, totally didnt see this coming

05-07-2010 , 12:24 AM

#29

jalexand42

Hypothetical Ubermonkey

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,390

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonshine

oh wow, totally didnt see this coming

lol <3

05-07-2010 , 12:55 AM

#30

JustSomeGuy

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,228

jalex,

UB just released an update, is it possible for them to have fixed the problem already?

05-07-2010 , 01:14 AM

#31

babar86

banned

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,881

lol, guys who run this site are a big joke

05-07-2010 , 01:51 AM

#32

jalexand42

Hypothetical Ubermonkey

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5,390

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustSomeGuy

jalex,

UB just released an update, is it possible for them to have fixed the problem already?

Sure it's theoretically possible. I have a programmer on staff that could have implemented SSL that fast.

I definitely wouldn't play there until it's independently confirmed tho.

05-07-2010 , 01:04 PM

#33

Vinny80

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,660

omg I feel ******ed that I played there between January and march... thank god I regain my senses since...

05-07-2010 , 01:48 PM

#34

CZI

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,351

Mind boggling.

05-07-2010 , 03:42 PM

#35

MasterLJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,684

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoahSD

For the record, this doesn't let anyone see your hole cards. They'd need to be either plugged into your network or be able to read traffic from your wireless network. So the odds of somebody using this to exploit you are pretty low in general. (The one time when I'd really be worried is when lots of poker players are in the same place using the same networks, like at big tournaments.)

It's still completely ridiculous that AP/UB were this incompetent and didn't follow basic industry standards.

1, Go to Panorama condos in Vegas.
2. Profit

But really, I have basically 0 sympathy for anyone who gets ****ed over by these networks. I'm not sure why the 2+2 community was so accepting of playing at AP/UB without anything ever really changing, save for the refunds.

05-07-2010 , 03:49 PM

#36

React1oN

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 12,270

Quote:

Originally Posted by MasterLJ

But really, I have basically 0 sympathy for anyone who gets ****ed over by these networks

as if people needed less reason to listen to you

05-07-2010 , 03:50 PM

#37

React1oN

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 12,270

Quote:

Originally Posted by React1oN

as if people needed less reason to listen to you

[x] someone who got ****ed

05-07-2010 , 03:52 PM

#38

MasterLJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,684

The original scandal I can see how someone could get screwed, but after that it's 100% avoidable.

05-07-2010 , 04:38 PM

#39

AndreasX

adept

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 943

people who play at UB deserve to get scammed at this point GTFO, seriosuly
lol

05-07-2010 , 04:41 PM

#40

tommyhawkers

adept

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 808

That's like saying people who live in new york deserve to get blown up, gtfo geezus

05-07-2010 , 04:51 PM

#41

MasterLJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,684

I hope no one here gets scammed, and am in no way saying people deserve it. It's just stupid to play there when none of the original security issues have been addressed with more than just lip service.

It's also funny who is commenting on this issue as there are multi-accounters ITT.

05-07-2010 , 05:21 PM

#42

snagglepuss

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,269

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyhawkers

That's like saying people who live in new york deserve to get blown up, gtfo geezus

no it isnt at all. this is a far more ******ed statement than the one you are criticizing (and i dont mean your example, i mean your actual post)

05-07-2010 , 05:25 PM

#43

d2themfi

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,262

Uhh masterlj who are the multi accounters itt?

05-07-2010 , 05:58 PM

#44

rbracco

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,605

Quote:

Originally Posted by d2themfi

Uhh masterlj who are the multi accounters itt?

05-07-2010 , 06:33 PM

#45

Jackal69

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,653

not in the least bit surprised...

05-07-2010 , 06:50 PM

#46

Slap My Jack

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Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,158

Quote:

Originally Posted by snagglepuss

no it isnt at all. this is a far more ******ed statement than the one you are criticizing (and i dont mean your example, i mean your actual post)

if a girl dresses a little too sexy and stays out late with a bro she deserves to get date raped

05-07-2010 , 07:15 PM

#47

aggrocallerOOP

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,004

lol, some bad analogies ITT...

comparing playing on UB to being blown up in NYC/rape is just soooooo bad.

05-07-2010 , 07:20 PM

#48

tommyhawkers

adept

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 808

lol saying ppl deserve to be scammed for playing on UB is just as dumb - that's the point

05-07-2010 , 07:57 PM

#49

lippy

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Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,323

how is the analogy bad?

you're taking a risk (hack, boom) in order to get something that you want (soft tables, living situation).

05-07-2010 , 08:18 PM

#50

MasterLJ

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,684

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyhawkers

lol saying ppl deserve to be scammed for playing on UB is just as dumb - that's the point

Uhhh... if you actually read the thread, no one is saying that.

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