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05-25-2008 , 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GSykes
is jcmoussa leveling us here?
uhhh no i really had KK
05-25-2008 , 05:59 PM
how does this thread keep getting so much action? the hand and much of the analysis is just el oh el from start to finish.
05-25-2008 , 06:16 PM
people like me obv
05-25-2008 , 08:02 PM
attn everyone: I GOT MY CHAT BACK !!!!


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are you serious? i was singing a song. give me my chat back. ive been
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is my first violation and you really think ONE MONTH is justified? how
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05-25-2008 , 08:43 PM
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psych
05-25-2008 , 09:38 PM
lol the support must be laughing their asses off quoting all the stuff ppl say in the chat
05-26-2008 , 05:42 AM
i think im lost, can someone direct me to the mtt forum? ty.

about the hand i don't see how you can just fold here. granted i don't know just how nitty jcmoussa is but to me the bet sizing to the raise just screams flush draw. unfortunately i dont know any of the players well enough to be that precise with their bet sizing but wouldn't a set be a little bit less around 1800? im curious at to what the 2050 raise means. either he is telling jc that he isn't folding(flush draw) or is trying to level jc into thinking that (set). i do think 55 is well within his range here but as is AJss or something like that. And doesn't prnnyraid bet out a fair amount of the time with a set here? Can he ever have stone nothing seeing a bet out by a good, nitty player who will make folds and a somewhat weak call/maybe float? Feel free to flame/ban/whatever me. I just wanted to take a shot at the high stakes forum and see if I got what it takes =D.
06-18-2008 , 03:39 PM
Bump for result.

And nice level JC lol.
06-19-2008 , 12:03 AM
bump
06-19-2008 , 04:42 PM
Not sure why I'm offering this, but if you were Krantz and had a set on this board, would you try and maximize value by check/raising this board after this action? What are you expecting people to continue with?

Of course his range is going to depend on how often he wants his long term image/ meta game to depend on showing up with a hand here sometimes, but my guess is he's not worried about that.

That's my first hint... play on...

Last edited by FreakDaddy; 06-19-2008 at 04:56 PM.
06-20-2008 , 08:43 AM
but u got top purrr
06-20-2008 , 11:05 AM
what a trainwreck
06-20-2008 , 11:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by luegofuego
what a trainwreck
am i off of team cokerunners now?
06-20-2008 , 12:04 PM
hey it's this thread again
07-01-2008 , 03:08 PM
Results?
07-02-2008 , 01:28 PM
yea what ended up happening?
lol read the thread, obv fees folded and krantz giggled like a school girl and told FWF to "go wake up emil, i just bluffed jc and scared monies"
07-10-2008 , 04:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcmoussa
am i off of team cokerunners now?
jc,

i need someone to run the NYC operation. how do u like "dosomecrack.com"?
07-11-2008 , 08:06 AM
I really have trouble believing that Krantz range here is 22 and 55. How can you be a beast and be that exploitable in a fairly standard situation? The problem is there is no right play once you flat the flop because basically Krantz is better at poker than you.

FWIW i imagine Krantz would flat 55 behind, seems like the best line against 2 people playing their hands nearly face up and both drawing dead. If one of your opponents has a FD, doesn't matter, supposedly Krantz is good at poker so he bet/folds turn(if a spade rolls off).

For OP, call flop and look to fold a lot of turns. AQ is bottom of ur range to flat twice and basically Krantz will not continue w/ any kind of bluff.

again for OP, Raise flop is much better than flatting. You still get value out of worse hands, you can fold when your villain reraises because the only time you're making a mistake is by not getting all the money in as 50/50 against some kind of superdraw. (hint: very small mistake)

I am poker smart, i just play poorly.
07-19-2008 , 03:35 AM
Results? This thread was very entertaining.
07-19-2008 , 09:39 AM
I am also very curious about results, please do tell!
07-19-2008 , 10:46 AM
Wow, who resurrected this dead thread? almost 2000!
07-19-2008 , 04:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by grizy
Wow, who resurrected this dead thread? almost 2000!
What?

Also, we don't allow anything mentioning coaching in your location, I suggest you take that out please.
07-20-2008 , 06:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by luegofuego
jc,

i need someone to run the NYC operation. how do u like "dosomecrack.com"?
does that video still exist somewhere? I'd pay top dollar to see it again
07-21-2008 , 01:17 AM
huge cluster**** of non-coherant **** in this thread, yet still manages to entertain me
07-21-2008 , 12:04 PM
i know the results of the hand! but if it hasnt been said yet the people in the hand probably didnt want it to be said

      
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