actually, it would probably make more sense to do it NOW, because most people would just immediately blame Jose for it.

look, Jose is a proven liar and a cheat. he's clearly guilty of quite a bit. but this is a great opportunity for someone to capitalize on his previous scam. to dismiss this possibility is pretty weak, considering it wasn't even his skype and the writing does not look like his.

plus, wtf at the timing. ugh though, not to sound like JM here, but this is just one giant ****storm.

Yeah this is what I was trying to get at.

Was this something Jose might have shared with HID via e-mail?

Edit: Not suggesting HID had anything to do with it bty Just sees like the hacker could have gotten a hold of this info. if Jose did share it with HID or anyone else.

Ok, two things

#1 -- he is home and not travelling like we were told
#2 -- if you were in his shoes and this **** storm was blowing up, wouldn't you be constantly following the threads of what was going on? How can we expect that he hasn't "checked" his Twitter or Facebook since this went down!?!?!?!?!

BUT, when something like this second scam is revealed, bam he suddenly reemerges and rises from the ashes within minutes! And why the 20 minute delay while he goes and checks his facebook? This should take 2 minutes... unless of course you are perusing the recent additions to a 2+2 thread to see what has been revealed

He couldn't log onto his Facebook due to the password being changed.

I'm not going to come up with my own interpretations; I've put the facts on the table.

If the same committee could do an interview with Jose over video skype call to fry him with questions, I'm sure we could find out more about this. If Vanessa and Noah agree to do this I'll speak with Jose and see if he'll agree also; me and anyone else of your choosing who've spoken to him on the phone would be in the skype call to confirm it's him.

could also be DiH

Why would some anonymous scam artist want to get Jose, someone he almost certainly doesn't know in person, in trouble even more?

What benefit does it bring?

Because I don't see any $$$ coming through this scam.

Kjemmy,

If you really trust Jose that he has nothing to do with TVpro, I hope you won't stop chasing him.

Because he clearly deserves that.

I know it's up to you, just saying.

dude trust gtfo stop posting in this thread please

It could be anyone, but at this point his word on what is happening should be worth 0%. There are a lot of inconsistencies, but there are also a lot of things pointing to it being jose.

It's like DIH's story, there are just so many holes everywhere that you can't believe anything.

I know I'm speculating a bit, but really, how can anyone give this kid the benefit of the doubt at this point --he may be proven innocent later on, who knows. If it turns out he lives in Somalia, and is a 87 year-old women in an Iron Lung I wouldn't be surpirsed at this point, 90% of everything that has come from his mouth is utter BS!

I don't know if he is travelling or not, but is a bit odd that him and his mom are awake (it's 4 a.m in Portugal). But maybe it's normal, i don't know their sleeping patterns

kjemmy,

how did he post that status that was pasted somewhere above if he can't log into his fb or twitter?

kjemmy,
so you are sure that the jose on facebook knew stuff that a hacker couldnt find in his email or something of the sort?

He did do a good job of butchering that english and appearing like someone else --which he also does with his numerous 2+2 accounts.

One other oddity: Are we supposed to believe he has been checking his e-mail and corresponding, but has not once logged into twitter or facebook in 4 or 5 days? And why wasn't his e-mail hacked and password changed?

I think somehow his facebook account was just deleted. And Kjemmy, can you confirm to me that I was not talking to Jose and in fact I was talking to a hacker?

jose prob deactivated his fb

I've been doing some work in the background talking to some people(some whose names have never come up in the thread fwiw)..

I have this one thing to say - DO NOT ASSUME that the scam group consists solely of Jose, Haseeb, and jungleman.

Someone from Sweden, who accepts Swedish Kroners as payment for Teamviewpro, could be the 4th member, this someone also is very likely to be part of the skype group to begin with.

The group(and other groups) most likely had more than just Jose as part of the masterplan.

I'm not going to name names, I wasnt in the primary group, and when those I know who are investigating come up with something concrete they will speak for themselves, but what im saying shouldnt be a shock to people that if they werent already looking deeper at EVERYONE they have conversed with that is mildly related to PPP/strategy groups/coaching/etc, they should be. Check your chatlogs, emails, messages, HH's, etc etc etc. Dont overlook anything.

that is all for now.

Playing devils advocate here it seems, but if Jose had access to the sophisticated "teamviewerpro" trojan weeks ago, why would he not just use that scam method instead of the blatant sweating/super using?

lol @ thinking it's NOT him. Come on.

also, Girahh on Lock is one account related to PPP that has been used by Haseeb as well as Jose, and possibly jungleman(he hasnt so far answered). Toshisan is another.

WHAT ARE THE OTHER SIGNNAMES, ON LOCK AND OTHER NETWORKS, that have also been used by not just Jose but Haseeb and/or jungleman as well? Were these signnames used to play some of the best players in the world under anonymity?

these names will come out one way or another, and im not just speculating, believe me some work is being done behind the scenes to uncover this(just like how SamChauhan was exposed as Haseeb with jungleman's approval) but Haseeb and jungleman still have a chance to just come out and tell us what these names were instead of dodging the question repeatedly.

If all you guys did was multiaccounting and Jose was the scammer, can't you see that since your names are already tarnished, by coming out and admitting you actually are going to end up like Brian Townsend which means given that we are a forgiving community, you will be allowed at some time to move on and redeem yourselves? not that I agree with it, but Brian Townsend hasnt found the need to "quit poker for good" like Haseeb wants us to believe.

My real suspicion is that they know by admitting to multiaccounting and providing us with names, those names will link them to the coaching scam currently only attributed to Jose Macedo.

Sorry for slight derail, but thought y'all might enjoy my "Name that Quote: Haseeb or F. Scott Fitzgerald?" game

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...erald-1082072/

As far as the writing goes, and assuming this is Jose as of late (it probably is), it makes sense that DIH had full access to Jose's fb, twitter, 2p2, skype, etc. and was probably pretending to be Jose a good amount of the time. Explains a lot of the inconsistencies (and some consistencies) wrt to the writing and articulation

can we please keep garbage like this in NVG...oh, wait.

also, 15/16. that was fun.

I'm the only one who has been saying this all along.

He vouched for Jose originally in the PPP thread, then early on in this thread, he was VERY quick to defend DIH. It always stuck out to me.

I haven't posted any accusations quite yet, just suspicions, but as the **** hit the fan, he completely disappeared.

He was also someone who posted a thread about himself and his personal goals, exploits, correct?

Nice! Needed some humor.