fwiw jose did ask me to post in the thread so i did and i didnt think much of it and still dont. its the internet, the content here is free, and i thought jose's story was cool/exciting and saw no reason to doubt it so i said so. Consider my sterling e-reputation tarnished !! !

people who think i said something nice about jose only in order to receive something in return are delusional. that me doing something for someone i barely know (jose) at no possible gain to myself is evidence for me having some shady motive couldnt be more wrong, and that just reflects poorly on the ppl making these accusations. i give free coaching via teamviewer fairly often, usually when im bored. i do this because its something i would have appreciated a lot when i was coming up the ranks. i typically choose ppl for this pretty much at random.

also, and how has this not been said already, ITS THE INTERNET PEOPLE! i dont have to do a background check on jose in order to say he seems smart/cool on an internet forum. same goes for the clowns spouting off insane conspiracy theories ITT. this isnt a job interview and this isnt a courtroom.

hi girah

Kind of makes you wonder if he had previous plans of writing the book the entire time. Could be very tin foil hat of me, but I can imagine a plausible scenario where he planned on creating this elaborate PPP scam from the outset with grand intentions to write a book about it later about how he created an entire false persona, deceived an entire community, and got away with a multimillion dollar scam (very possible that JM was a huge target at some point in the future and obv JM has monies). Seems like a pretty lucrative book offer at the very least. Of course, why would writing a book be so important? well, it seems that HQ is narcissistic enough to want/desire global fame as opposed to 2p2 fame.

i don't think noah having 3 hours to prepare is a big deal. he's already been closely following the thread, no doubt already has the important questions in mind, and to be honest, i don't even know how many answers jungleman will have. i suspect the only thing he's guilty of is blindly placing trust in haseeb.

You appear completely innocent in all of this; there has been nothing, even circumstantial, incriminating toward you in any way.

I wouldnt sweat it.

+1

I lost 14.772 USD to Sauron 1989 in the sessions when Jose sweated me. I contacted him and gave him my bank info so he can transfer the money. So far I haven't gotten a response. Since DogisHead was vouching for the scammed money " as long as jose is alive and well" I'd like him to take care of that.

I, for one, do not think your image is tarnished at all.

However, I will say, that while you are correct (it is the internet and it is free), conversely, this forum is one of the only ways to police the world we operate in while online poker remains in an non-policed state. People like to give Mason a lot of **** at times, but one of his reasons for forming 2p2 was to have such a place to police our own games.

You still don't? That's strange, considering your recommendation is part of why his coaching fees were so high and also part of why that douche got a contract and part of why many people trusted him...

You say it's the internet folks, no biggie if this is a star wars form and all are just playing for fun. But many people lost bug chunks of their finances thanks to do this dude.

I definitely do want more time to prepare, but it's also my birthday, so I have a smallish window to get the interview done and transcribed.

I'm also not sure what JM's going to have to say, and I'm dreading him not having anything to say and being blamed for that. Such is life, :/.

Sauce, the people suggesting you are in some way implicit in all this are in a minority. It's pretty clear to most that you are innocent of any wrong doing.

Noah, as you are to be conducting this interview, can you just clarify your involvement with the Skype group scandal before it became public? A prior chat transcript posted - i believe it was DiH who said - that you had been one of the few who knew about the suspicions of Girah before he was confronted/admitted it to the group.

If this has already been addressed in this thread or the others sorry for the repetition.

edit: and happy birthday!

ive read most of this thread and would be v surprised if sauce has done anything wrong , apart from niavely vouching for someone he didnt know particularly well...because none of us have ever done that have we?

in fact id say he seems pretty good guy

He's a better person than he is a poker player and that's saying something

another +1. just to be clear i initially lobbed accusations agains DiH/JM and Sauce as a trio, and feel shameful about it now as I should. It's obvious to anyone who followed this closely that Sauce had no real involvement and handled this entire situation with excellent tact and integrity. I know he probably doesn't care/whatever but if anything this entire ordeal probably actually elevated Sauce's general reputation. It has for me anyways.

I definitely agree with this. Many of us have transferred large sums of money to people on WAY LESS than any info you had about girah so I don't think you can really blamed for anything there.

As far as all the people spouting off conspiracies etc, I think we just have to take that as a necessary evil considering this is really the only way we have to police ourselves.

Also, not sure if it was intentional but nice location. lol wp.

I got PMed a message about someone who had been caught cheating using teamviewer. It didn't include names or much detail at all really and asked me to help out. Normally I'd jump at the opportunity to help, but I'm trying (and failing) not to have too much on my plate right now, so I juts suggested that they make it public and didn't say anything else about it.

Another apologetic post from someone who DIRECTLY influenced members of the high-stakes poker community to trust a guy who would eventually scam them for thousands and thousands of dollars.

Anyone remotely involved in this debacle who doesn't think they owe the community a complete and detailed explanation with no snide narcissism or arrogance is delusional.

Noah, this interview needs to be a video interview done via skype and recorded. Do you have the capabilities to do that? What about the others who volunteered for the panel? Jungle agreed to do an interview on a video panel with multiple people. There is plenty of time to prepare and no reason it has to get done by 2PM today. Like I said, I would be on it personally if we did it much later in the day, around 8 or 9PM pacific. Many people with lots of pertinent questions on the west coast aren't even awake yet - there is just no conceivable reason to throw it together in such a shoddy way.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...l#post27313797

At post 1576, there is an account called "sdfnsjns" that questions whether Jungle/DIH/Sauce used Jose's merge account to play or ghost on. When questioned about it, the user responds 3 posts later wondering whether they checked the balance, saw juicy games and then decided to play, adding that it "makes sense to me."

If you look at the user's posting history, he claims to know Jose personally and he was the one who started the thread that had a poll asking if Jose's training video was the best of all time (lol). Almost certainly, this was an account used by Jose to create buzz for himself.

So why would Jose be the one to suggest that DIH was the one who played on the account? Maybe I'm wrong here, but could this show evidence that Jose was genuinely annoyed at HQ for this? And it makes me think HQ was telling the truth about not knowing Jose's other 2p2 screen names because why would Jose risk having Haseeb find out he told the forum?

Anyway, take that for what you will.

Yep, it's interesting how everyone involved in the investigation is defending each other or spinning the evidence in the most positive light for the accused, going all the way back to the OP which makes it sound as if Jose was upfront and admitted his mistake on his own. Certainly makes it seem that there is still more to be uncovered.

That account has been confirmed to be Jose. and that's a very interesting detail.

Yes, of course this +1, I don´t understand why this is being thrown together so hastily. A panel will be more efficient than one person and limits variance in terms of bias / questions asked, that is what everyone here agreed the original format would be and JM agreed to. Fslexcduck with her experience in and outside (impressive indeed) of poker seems like another excellent choice for this panel by the way. Don´t let this drag on longer, do it once and do it right. I would think that most of the people that Jungleman is aiming to satisfy with his answers will be left unsatisfied with this format, which could potentially defeat the purpose and waste even more time.

+1, no offense to Noah. He's certainly not the only person capable of doing this interview and if hte only time he has available is 2pm today it makes way more sense to just have other people do the interview rather than rush it along. Also, seems like he wants to interview via text and I think almost everyone would prefer it be at least an audio interview.

Being the time is 1:55PM EST, I doubt that Noah is going to call this off. (It's going to start in less than 5 minutes) Perhaps JM would be willing to do an additional session with Vanessa ++ after reading Noah' interview.