By short session, I meant <2 hours, and just one session. 4-tabling heads up iirc. And obviously if I had made an account on Merge, my ID wouldn't be "dogishead". I don't remember who the opponents were as I never play on Merge. And I'm not sure what you're trying to insinuate with the last statement? Am I trying to sabotage him now?

Jose retrieved the HH's from Lock so he could give me the final tally since he was supposed to be doing all of the accounting. I'll look through old e-mails to see if he sent them to me, but I don't believe he did, just the total.

Calm down. I've explained that yes, I logged into Girah's account a few times, and I originally said I hadn't when I first responded. I admit that.

As for playing on Eurosites, I've admitted that as well. Is there a specific accusation you want to make here?

And there's a pretty big leap between forgetting about (or lying about) logging into Girah's 2p2 account several times and me blatantly cheating. The most you can say is that I helped to develop his public image. Which I already admitted to, so I'm not sure why you think I'd be afraid and want to cover that up.

Afaik, she knows about at least some of what's going on. Immediately after this broke, she msged me on Facebook. I asked her to get in touch with me and gave her my number, but haven't heard anything from her. I spoke to her once briefly on a conference in Skype back in the beginning of this year I think. She's an 18 year old girl from Manchester.

Please don't ever consider law enforcement as a profession. You are trying to figure out whether someone is lying you need to put yourself in their skin and imagine realistic behaviour.

I have never heard of or considered a scenario that someone should need to change a pw to gain access to someone's online account for anything. You need a password for an account, you get the password. What legitimate advantage do you gain from changing it first?

The more I think about it, I have a big LOL @ the idea of Dog even guessing at the pw openly in a high-profile thread like this. Is he 100% sure the password got changed after he posted? IMO it's totally possible that the current password for the Girah account is "dogishead" lol

Nah, im sorry. Somehow my post was miss understood (my english aint that good). What i meant to say was that Jungleboy doesnt deserve all this **** (until actual proof). Played couple sessions (in his lower stakes days) with him and handled himself well even tho i was tilted and talked lots of ****. All i have heard about him (from people i knew) were good things. You have to agree that there arent many upstanding poker players these days. Why try and brake them down without any actual proof.

PS: was just told who your brother is . He might be better then you, lol. Good guy too apparently.

Anyway, i didnt really wanna chim in and throw my 2c cause you guys dont know who i am (and i saw this community values it's users only) but somehow felt like i had to since i was also scammed and know how it's like emotionally.

Pappa Bear, you should request a special thread where a mod gathers every reasonable question and only the 2 of you have access in it,so it doesnt get dirty with the likes of 669955 or whoever (myself included). Keep it clean and to the point. Everyone could ask the questions here, you answer over there.

I can attest that for me and a few of my colleagues the above would be very common - changing a password to some online account before giving access to somebody.

The advantage of changing the password is simple - same passwords are often used on different sites/for different systems etc. So by not changing a password to one account you are effectively letting the other guy access many other accounts of yours.

@DOGisHEAD

1. You now admit to playing on Eurosites (plural) I was under the impression that you only played one session on girah's account and had not played on toshishan in a long time? What other sites did you play on and what were your SN's? I realise they may not be public already and it is detrimental to your future EV to disclose them but your credibility is in question and it may help to get to the bottom of all this.

2. Of the euro sites you played on were they registered in your name? If not whose were they registered in?

3. Did you tell Jose to make the looking for a poker prodigy thread?

4. Did you write or strongly edit his admission of guilt post?

5. Did you tell him to make the I am the so called Portugese Prodigy thread? Did you write or strongly edit this post?

6. You said that when this first broke your intentions were to still go live with him in Portugal in order to get your money back, if this is the case what were you planning on doing after you reclaimed your money? i.e. did you intend to continue living with him?

7. Do you believe he really had a friend that was supposedly the owner of the dollarman and sauron accounts, or do you in fact believe it was him and the friend is non-exsistant?

8. Do you still have intentions to meet up with jose in real life at any point and if so for what purpose?

9. Jose had recently signed sponsorships deals, do you know with some accuracy what his remuneration for these was?

10. As his agent were you entitled to any of this remuneration and if so what amount and if not, why not? Given that you were acting as his agent?

hey, haseeb, i'm really inclined to believe the reasonable explanation in your blog post.... e.g., I posted this abt it in the NVG thread - post 1597

However, I think there's one think a lot of people would like more clarity on.

You said this abt playing on Jose's account:

Now 2p2ers are saying you played 1298 hands and lost $56k, and you responded with
Can you address this please? A lot of people, including Cardrunners obv (sorry abt that btw) regard the account sharing as a pretty serious activity. Can you please explain:

1) the discrepancy in the way you presented the situation
2) whether you thought it was morally right to account share at that time
3) whether you still think it's morally right to occasionally play on an unknown's account. note i'm not judging here - I think it's highly likely that a lot of HS players occasionally play on an unknown account.

This:
does not compute with this:


Saying "oh yeah it looked legit I just believed what everyone else was saying about him" does not fit with putting your reputation/unlimited money (ANY amount!) on the line and vouching for the ABSOLUTE veracity of EVERYTHING he is saying. YOU were predominant driving force behind him being considered legitimate. Your name is right there on the first page of his "I am a poker prodigy!" thread (post 7 even). Right below the OP that you wrote. When you were misleading people and misrepresenting yourself and "Jose".

The fact that your story constantly changes/evolves to fit with every new piece of information that comes to light should make it absolutely obvious to everyone that you are without a doubt dishonest, have been dishonest, are currently being dishonest, and will continue to be in the future.

Also laughable is the idea that we have a supposed "prodigy" that wins millions but can't set up a twitter account or register a domain name by himself (he needs an international team of pro-bono benefactors to help him)-- yet, strangely, he did somehow manage to set up his own facebook.


And all the while we have Haseeb Qureshi modifying his story at every turn, at once willing to bet his entire networth on the legitimacy of the PPP, but now posturing incredulously in the face of the new information: "You mean he could have doctored those hand histories?????? OMGWTF Guys I've been duped too!!!"

This painfully transparent narrative is unraveling piece by piece as all poorly constructed lies eventually do.

Girah was a 6-max player, not known for playing heads up. So don't you think it's fair to say it might have been a soft seat to 4-table girah at 25/50 PLO HU?

It also seems suprising that you played 1200 hands in <2 hours 4-tabling, on a site that you say you've never played on before. Unfamiliar software, you wouldn't have HEM set up I assume? And you jump straight in to 4-tablling 25/50 vs an unknown for a couple of hours?

That it wasn't the first time you played on his account, just the first time you were caught.

aggressive is a friend of mine and def not jose

edit: already covered.

Haseeb, I'll give you some free career advise as that is something you apparently enjoy:

- stop lying about everything. If you keep changing your answers you come off incredibly shay

i have no idea about the login stuff, i am more concerned with figuring out how soon you knew about the cheating and if you had anything to do with it. i would not expect you to admit to anything until you are caught, because that seems to be your style.

you have to admit, the history of changing identities, self promotion, random fibs about account logins, charged adjectives that attempt to sway your reader to think the degree of something was less than it really was, the company you keep, previous judgment when it comes to large amounts of money, etc.-- they all lead to it being pretty likely that you have more to do with this than just doing perhaps the poorest job of all time of verifying someone's legitimacy when bringing them into their inner poker circle and vouching for them. given your history with said things, im taking a guilty until proven innocent stance, but am open minded.

not sure if related at all, but I spent several hours in the 10-20 games at aria/bellagio this summer. there was a group of 3, maybe 4 portuguese players who were around for at least a week, maybe two, and played most/every day. I googled to see girah's picture, and I don't think he was one of them. I can only get 1 or 2 pictures from google images and I might be wrong but I don't think he was one of them.

DIH, did you help Girah to phrase his apology post?

The first couple of questions are not really relevant or have already been answered.

3. No, and I wasn't acting in any advisory capacity with him until a while after that thread came out.

4. No. I was busy dealing with the victims at the time that they said they were going public (they posted all of the Skype logs, so you can double check that yourself).

5. Yes. I stated that before.

6. After we retrieved our money we were not planning to actually live with him. As it is in hindsight, I probably handled it pretty ******edly otherwise.

7. I think his friend exists. When he confessed to me, he told me the friend was real but was some terrible player who plays 50NL and wasn't really rich. He also offered several times while he was bargaining with the victims to fly the guy out and have them meet him in person to corroborate his story, so I'm sure there was at least someone, but the details he gave may have been a lie.

8. No.

9. I obviously cannot say that. Those contracts contain confidentiality clauses.

10. No, I was not acting as his agent in any of his deals. I was not his agent. He was represented by Pokerroyalty, and as such Pokerroyalty negotiated those deals and took a cut of them. I advised him on a lot of stuff as well as how to interact with his agent, but I did not get a cut of any of his deals. That was not part of our agreement, and like I said, I encouraged him before we began our agreement to get an ACTUAL agent. I did not consider myself his agent and did not consider myself qualified for that job to begin with.


1. To me, a long session is one that lasts several hours. I said a short session to indicate that it wasn't long or that I played more than one session, but it might've been more accurate to say a medium length session depending on how long sessions you usually play? I may have been misleading there, and I apologize, but the amount of hands was public knowledge already.

2. No, I didn't. I considered it in my mind to be a minor transgression.

3. An unknown's account? I'm not sure what this refers to. Jose playing on the Toshisan account you mean? If so, I think it's fine when he doesn't have an Ipoker account of his own (that is, a post 18 one in his own name that he can play on).

Alright, gotta run for real now. Long day.

I'll answer one last one because aejones seems to really be gunning for me here.
I stated everything with the timeline in my blog post. Nick can corroborate this completely. We spoke in Skype, so I'd have to be a damn good actor on top of all of the other stuff to convince him too I suppose.

Do you mean logging into Girah's 2p2 account several times? Or do you mean changing accounts after I turned 18? The latter is pretty standard, and I told my close friends (who weren't a lot back then when I wasn't well-known).
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Err, charged adjectives? Really?
Again, expound?
Man, I don't know what you're accusing me of here, but I'd like for you to be more specific than to make big strokes to attack me with without anything specific. You're a respected poster on here, so at the very least if you're going to accuse me of things in a public forum, you should be specific and thorough of what exactly you're saying.
Again, I'm not the only person who vouched for Jose, so this is pretty unreasonable. A lot of european regs vouched for him as well who have faded into the background of this story because they didn't keep up with it or put themselves in the middle of it.
Fair enough, but if you want to say I'm guilty until proven innocent, you're going to have to state exactly what of which you think I'm guilty.

Heading out for real, but I hope to have a less vague response from you about his.

Haseeb:

My understanding is that the challenge was basically entirely won in the last few days, all hu very high stakes.

It seems more likely that you met Jose as a mid-stakes grinder, he convinced you he could be a high stakes player and you concocted this entire "prodigy' viral marketing strategy to turn him into a superstar. And aside from Jose's coaching, it's not even that bad of an offense if you genuinely thought you could help in a Jungleman-like ascent to the nosebleeds. Like your own urnotindangr mixed with isildur's unintentional marketing genius.

This explains why Jose cracked, acted sloppy and desperate becoming opportunistic with all the people he was coaching/sweating. It doesn't make sense that this was his original motive. It sounds more like he tried, studied, got coaching and agreed to join this embellished clever strategy by his talented "poker agent" but ultimately failed. So he stole.

I don't believe you scammed anything but I do think it's likely you co-wrote the Looking for Prodigy post and conceived the idea. And if true, you should admit that you knew his HEM stats were fake and exaggerated in order to build a marketing "myth" for your protege. You were first to meet Jose so it appears your endorsement led to JM, Sauce etc supporting him.

Which is simpler, that Jose's clever marketing of himself was co-created by you, or that Jose deceived you for a year about making $1.6M and never shared his screen names or proof of his million+ while secretly orchestrating all this deceptive marketing hype without his "marketing expert", the Ari Gold of amateur poker agents, knowing.

EDIT- What is the month and year that you first met Jose?

None of them were Girah. In fact, I talked to them a few times about the subject and they were skeptical as to whether Girah actually existed or not.

Haseeb used to post over on liquidpoker.net as Moloch and eventually got in trouble for some unsavory activities and got banned for being shady. Don't remember all the details but maybe someone does

this was when he played msnl at least a year before 100/200 with isildurr

Iirc, I got banned because I requested to be banned. Nobody gets banned for being "shady", people get banned for doing specific things. This is all when I was 16 or 17 when I first started playing poker, 5 years ago or so.

Haseeb

how was Jose allowed to play the high stakes hu games to win the Lock challenge?

how was he still in makeup following? was he considerably deeper than 50k pre-challenge?

its a shame that all pertinent questions that need to be answered to prove/disprove dih's innocence of things beyond being stupid and shady can simply be responded with a no and be hard as **** to prove.

I really hope whatever the full truth is here comes out as its pretty clear theres alot of other underlying issues that havent and arent being addressed

changing accounts when you turned 18, creating an entirely new dogishead persona that was not the ipokeder account known for bitching about running bad and tilting and acting like a general buffoon-- in fact, you've basically previously turned a crappy reputation into one that was known for making good poker training videos, and parlayed that into a deal with dc and later cr + red pro.

"Jose had always told me that he was a big fan of my writing. He used to say that my writing reminded him of F. Scott Fitzgerald (which I thought was ridiculous) and say that he had always wanted me to write about him as well."

you've already apologized multiple times for "accidentally" misleading people on the length of the session where you played a short session and lost a few flips; do i REALLY have to look for charged adjectives in your blogs or posts? i could find a few if you really want to get a laugh out of your own writing. i think if you want to get credit from the smart people, you should answer questions with things like real numbers.

example: "i played 1300 hands at 2550 plo on x network on y sn."

example2: "i logged into joses account about a dozen times because his punctuation was poor. i remember most recently logging in this spring because he asked me to respond in detail to a post that was made about the bluff thing."

you befriended and choose to live with, literally, the two biggest marks in the poker community-- by far.

the embarrassment that was the 300/900k running bet and the aftermath of it

i'd be interested just for the sport of it to see who these guys were; i personally don't take someone's vouch for anything other than bs unless i can vouch for them-- so you took the word of... randoms? did oyu sit with ppl on ipoker and ask them? did they come into the thread on 2p2 and say he was a boss? i am truthfully just fishing for what would make you stick your neck out so much for this kid, though honestly it probably matters very little at this point, im just curious.

haven't quite figured it out just yet! but don't worry, we'll get there

edit: i apologize for going after your writing style and narcissism, it just lends some ammo for character, but truthfully is not a major offense--you are obviously the billy mays of poker and i shouldn't be a hater.

This is probably the most level-headed read so far.

However, dogishead can't admit to this, because it would be admitting that he was involved with, or at least complicit, in a compaign to defraud not just students (who paid up to $1k/hr), and to defraud lock poker and pokerstrategy.com. Fraud is a very real and serious crime, and one you could expect these companies to persue.

Moloch huh? That name suits you well DIH. All of your names make sense to me now. DOGISHEAD, MOLOCH. Do you hang out at bohemian grove too?