He did say his iPoker screen name, I'll find it.

This. I would guess that many high stakes hu no limit players have VPIP in the 55-85 range against a minraise.

Pretty interesting that he didn't actually pay Sauce for coaching. I was under the impression that he did pay, he must have mentioned it in pokerstatic interview or his blogs somewhere? I wonder if he even payed JM for coaching.

Jose said he paid both JM and DH for coaching at the start of the 'live' Quadjacks interview

One theory on all of this that I haven't seen mentioned is that DIH may have been embarrassed or blinded with the fact that he had been manipulated by Jose after all the work that he put into him. Sunk cost theory. Even knowing that Jose was a fraud, he may have been reluctant to out him due to the leverage Jose provided (european sites) and any embarrassment from 2p2, regardless of the scam based on his error in assessing Jose's true poker skills. He was just in too deep and not completely innocent in the matter. It was a symbiotic relationship that worked out well until the curtain began to fall.

Can't remember from the chat logs, but did Girah try to get Haseeb or JM to play the "super aggro fish" Sauron1989 or Dollarman?
I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

Seems weird that he'd have no qualms trying to scam Sauce123, who spent many hours over a year or so discussing strat with him for free, but wouldn't do it to Haseeb or JM because he felt too close to them.

If these two are literally the only ones he didn't try to scam, it looks extremely suspicious, imo.

Thanks, and if there are any other known screen names out there I'm sure there a lot of people who appreciate knowing them.

Not sure how much good it will do in terms of reconstructing his history since apparently the Euro sites aren't tracked very well. But if some of his as of yet unknown SNs are outed it would at least be a deterrent for him to try to use one of them to run some other sort of poker scam.

Uh, I could only find toshisan mentioned. As far as we know he only really played on iPoker and Merge. I'll try and look for some more names being mentioned.

toshisan on ipoker

oh and he also told me once he made an account on ftp but never funded it. he said the account was called girah. this was a while after he got famous.

random tidbit too: not long after he came out on 2p2 in his "i am the PP thread" he said someone had outed his Party screenname and that they closed his account and confiscated his $$$. i believe the reason he stated was that he had played underage but can't say with absolute certainty. maybe someone else remembers and can confirm. since "his lawyers advised him not to", he did not reveal any other screennames as far as i can remember. he may have told people in private conversations though and i may have missed some of the group chat.

I think alot of people believe DIH isn't dumb enough to run this kind of scam, but thats not say he didn't have some info about the scam, which imo is just as a bad.

I'd like to get boywonders perspective on DIH coaching jose what to say.

This is what I was referring to, and believe needs to be disclosed now, if it exists.

I understand and respect HS regs in their private chats and coaching sessions not wanting to disclose their SNs to the unwashed masses, but I'm fairly certain this scandal strips Girah of any such right to privacy, so if he had mentioned any of his other SNs, I believe they should be disclosed now.

Could you also check SN's posted by sauce earlier ITT?
It appears that some of them aren't his but belong to members of your study/skype group.

If that's true, then why would he send sauce many hands that aren't his?
I definitely think that getting advice on your own hands is more valuable, because you remember reads, dynamic etc.

Or maybe it is that sauce just posted all hands with different screennames.
So that his skype log contains much more hands from 1-3 of his own (Jose's) accounts and there are just few extra outside hands.

I just skimmed my skype logs and posted every new sn i saw. there wasnt a single sn which accounted for a large majority of the hands posted.

Here's a google cache of Portugal's top winners of all time. It may help find his party account,

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...www.google.com

One interesting one I found is aAzarenka whose activity started on 1/27/2011.

Have seen a few people mentioning Christiano Ronaldo aka CR7Sete...I know 2 people who independently spent multiple hours on skype with cr7sete (back when he was running around on FTP) and both ultimately concluded it was just some guy impersonating Ronaldo in attempt to scam people. I'd be pretty surprised if there was any link to Girah but I guess anything is possible at this point.

2 & 9 seem linked!

I dont see any updates in your original post.

Also - if no sn occured significantly more than average, then it would suggest he sent numerous hands that werent his (presumably belonged to that study group he scammed). I find it strange.

He was a red pro

I'm on my laptop in Argentina and so unfortunately I don't have any logs from May on skype, but back then right after the DOJ, I started to explore my options via staking and contacted some 2p2ers if they wanted to stake me. I talked to Jose on skype a couple of times about whether he wanted to stake me. We didn't talk too many details as he said he had final exams to prepare for but that he wanted me to send him a draft regarding the staking terms.

I never followed through with a draft or a staking deal with anyone, and it just occurred to me, if he was being staked, then with what and whose money was he going to back me? He was very interested in doing so.

--if it's important and if there's a way i can request my skype history, please let me know

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I was fortunate enough to dodge the bullet multiple times from Jose, he contacted me from July 7th-17th 3 times hoping to scam me. Since nothing happened, I don't want to clutter the thread but just provide an example of more chatlogs of jose being jose. He's pretty good at being manipulative, it's funny how only in retrospect it seems obvious


[7/9/2011 6:02:45 PM] josé maria macedo: hey mikey
[7/9/2011 6:02:47 PM] josé maria macedo: you around?
[7/9/2011 6:03:25 PM] mikey: yeah
[7/9/2011 6:03:26 PM] mikey: what's up
[7/9/2011 6:03:45 PM] josé maria macedo: wondering if youd like to join a HU sweat group?
[7/9/2011 6:04:04 PM] josé maria macedo: with me kaby nick frame imfromsweden probably fredrik keitel joining too
[7/9/2011 6:04:09 PM] josé maria macedo: thats fisheye 1984
[7/9/2011 6:04:14 PM] josé maria macedo: idea being we all sweat each other and exchange ideas
[7/9/2011 6:06:18 PM] mikey: i actually know of fisheye 1984
[7/9/2011 6:06:26 PM] mikey: i'll think about it
[7/9/2011 6:06:31 PM] mikey: i'm definitely uncomfortable with people sweating me
[7/9/2011 6:06:38 PM] mikey: you should move out to argentina henrik's coming
[7/9/2011 6:06:44 PM] mikey: he and I are going to be the next super badasses of hu
[7/9/2011 6:07:13 PM] josé maria macedo: why uncomfortable?
[7/9/2011 6:07:28 PM] mikey: because i'm very confident in my game
[7/9/2011 6:07:39 PM] mikey: and i haven't played
[7/9/2011 6:07:40 PM] mikey: any of those guys yet
[7/9/2011 6:07:42 PM] mikey: i'd like to
[7/9/2011 6:09:46 PM] josé maria macedo: hm, id be interested in sweating you
[7/9/2011 6:09:56 PM] mikey: i'd be interested in that too
[7/9/2011 6:09:59 PM] mikey: and i'd love that
[7/9/2011 6:10:01 PM] mikey: but not at the expense
[7/9/2011 6:10:04 PM] mikey: of 5 other guys watching my game
[7/9/2011 6:10:12 PM] josé maria macedo: yeah
[7/9/2011 6:10:15 PM] josé maria macedo: we can do that then
[7/9/2011 6:10:18 PM] mikey: sure
[7/9/2011 6:10:30 PM] mikey: you sure you don't want to play me first to see if we're suitable?
[7/9/2011 6:10:30 PM] josé maria macedo: tell me when you get action
[7/9/2011 6:13:41 PM] josé maria macedo: missed this
[7/9/2011 6:13:43 PM] josé maria macedo: hm
[7/9/2011 6:13:47 PM] josé maria macedo: id like to sweat actually
[7/9/2011 6:13:50 PM] josé maria macedo: what times do you generally play?
[7/9/2011 6:14:03 PM] josé maria macedo: and do you play any 6m at all?
[7/9/2011 6:14:59 PM] mikey: why dont'w e play each other? or u sweat me play another reg
[7/9/2011 6:15:06 PM] mikey: or i can do a vid review iwth you
[7/9/2011 6:15:07 PM] mikey: of my game
[7/9/2011 6:15:55 PM] josé maria macedo: you can sweat me too
[7/9/2011 6:17:45 PM] josé maria macedo: yeah we can play at some point
[7/9/2011 6:17:48 PM] josé maria macedo: we can both sweat each other
[7/9/2011 6:18:07 PM] mikey: word

i guess the evidence would be that that account has basically only played patrik antonius (at 25/50 nl which he doesn't usually play). kind of unusual for someone that is a scammer.

not unusual if it was jose since he got poker lessons from a european player that were '3000 an hour' in the past. maybe he played him for a lesson or something.

agree that its very unlikely.

Thanks for your efforts, sauce, given the sheer volume of Skype logs I understand how difficult this would be and it's not like he ever handed you a list of all his SNs.

From the HHs you posted I saw only three SNs that haven't already been scratched off, and one of them SHOULD be his (Girahh on Merge). If anyone knows for certain that -Basshunter- on Party or Humanity2 on OnGame are NOT Girah accounts I'd appreciate the heads up. I saw one poster who said they thought -Basshunter- had been playing for years but if someone else posted anything specific to these two accounts then I missed it.

Normally, I'm all for keeping your mouth shut if you're not certain you know what you're talking about. However, in this case I think everyone should be throwing out any and all wild theories that occur to them just to see if anybody else might be thinking the same thing or have any corroborating evidence. It seems very likely that what has come out so far is just the tip of the iceberg.

Humanity2 is Martin El-Kher according to this:

http://www.mermaidpoker.com/?page=8486

well, those 2 things definitely don't mesh well, i mean if it is a scammer, he isn't play PA hu. those two things just don't go together there has to be a reason.

how did cr7sete trick jungleman into tweeting he was playing c ronaldo and how did he convince antonius to play so low?