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10-29-2010 , 11:10 PM

screamx

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 46

Play with oponent like 30 hands. He play not smart, that 3rd 3bet and I think he make here much calls prf.
AllIn river?
$10/$20 No Limit Holdem
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
takemynobrain ($3,745.49)
BB ($2,347)

Pre-Flop: ($30, 2 players) takemynobrain is SB J

takemynobrain raises to $40, BB raises to $180, takemynobrain raises to $460, BB calls $280

Flop: 5

($920, 2 players)
BB checks, takemynobrain checks

Turn: 7

($920, 2 players)
BB bets $500, takemynobrain calls $500

River: 8

($1,920, 2 players)
BB checks, takemynobrain ?

10-29-2010 , 11:12 PM

WelshChip

adept

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,110

bumhunting 101

10-30-2010 , 08:32 AM

screamx

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 46

no ideas?

10-30-2010 , 09:14 AM

NthingToLose

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,398

half his stack is in and its early. I just take my showdown equity.. Alternative is bet another small bet like 500. Only hand he might call with that you beat is TT/99 bluff catching, otherwise I think you are bluffing with the best hand and only getting called/shoved against with better.

10-30-2010 , 10:56 AM

Shavedcoidpurse

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 434

i agree with post above even though with the way the hand played out your probabaly good the only hands you will get called by that we beat are bluffcatchers super standard check behind imo

10-30-2010 , 12:01 PM

Lefort

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,827

all of it in

10-30-2010 , 01:36 PM

fingersmith

adept

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 971

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shavedcoidpurse

i agree with post above even though with the way the hand played out your probabaly good the only hands you will get called by that we beat are bluffcatchers super standard check behind imo

wow really insightful, please keep posting in HSNL

10-30-2010 , 02:26 PM

HypeRNova4u

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 176

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingersmith

wow really insightful, please keep posting in HSNL

I sense a bit of sarcasm lol. but what he said is completely true in my opinion if we had more info like, he calls the river lite then i would say bet and scoop the pot the majority of the time but since such a small sample size (30 hands) i would say check behind and gather more information for future play.

10-30-2010 , 02:32 PM

TooCuriousso1

Golden 2017

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 6,711

uhh shove?

10-30-2010 , 05:01 PM

#10

Shavedcoidpurse

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 434

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingersmith

wow really insightful, please keep posting in HSNL

With limited info the hand is pretty basic what else do you want?

10-30-2010 , 07:44 PM

#11

pirelli32

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 19

he has 1390 left, pot 1920. highly doubt he wouldn't shove a K. however I think he has more air than middle pairs here, and its not even close after his turn bet, possibly whiffed flop c/r. so shipping may have lesser value here than betting small to induce a ship if he's a thinking player, but it's close.

bet 30-40% pot>ship>check

10-30-2010 , 07:45 PM

#12

pirelli32

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 19

edit: 25-35% pot is possibly barely better/equal to ship

10-30-2010 , 08:33 PM

#13

loob

newbie

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shavedcoidpurse

With limited info the hand is pretty basic what else do you want?

It's pretty clear from your post you don't beat HSNL, so don't post strategy here.

As for the hand, it's a jam.

10-30-2010 , 10:47 PM

#14

canoodles

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 7,033

Shove

10-31-2010 , 06:37 AM

#15

screamx

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 46

I think small bet like 600-700 is optimal now, he always shove here Kx.
I check he got A7dd

10-31-2010 , 03:36 PM

#16

Shavedcoidpurse

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 434

Quote:

Originally Posted by loob

It's pretty clear from your post you don't beat HSNL, so don't post strategy here.

As for the hand, it's a jam.

Says the guy who thinks jam is the right play?

10-31-2010 , 06:32 PM

#17

Discipline

banned

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,892

I don't play HS but jamming seems pointless.

10-31-2010 , 06:44 PM

#18

WelshChip

adept

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,110

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shavedcoidpurse

Says the guy who thinks jam is the right play?

he is right

10-31-2010 , 06:53 PM

#19

WhateverSon

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,304

cbet flop

10-31-2010 , 09:52 PM

#20

Shavedcoidpurse

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 434

Quote:

Originally Posted by WelshChip

he is right

ok why is jam the best play then just in case villain is feelings frisky with A high does villain view us as LAG TAG bluffs often or very rarely with limited info on villain and how villain views us a jam seems incorrect if we dont know villain at all check is safer play obviously...why do the people who say jam think it is the correct play? Why do you think with limited info villain would c/c river 10's or worse in this spot?

10-31-2010 , 11:43 PM

#21

loob

newbie

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shavedcoidpurse

Jam because we are rarely ever beat when villain checks the river, villain is a fish and has lots of bluff catchers he can make a call with.

Also, I assume this is you - http://www.pokertableratings.com/ful...havedCoinPurse

10-31-2010 , 11:54 PM

#22

AintNoLimit

Coach live/online NLHE

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,399

I stick it in.

11-01-2010 , 12:11 AM

#23

Grindation

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,077

i can't imagine him doing this with anything the beats you accept QQ. your choice with a thin value bet or a check for showdown value. really close. i think it's more of a feel situation. tell me how the hand played out and his hand. i'm interested. i'm pegging him as QQ 10 10 or 99.